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T-Bone Monson's Rap
Thursday, Apr 24, 2014, at 07:21 AM
Original Author(s): Donbagley
Topic: COMEDY - SECTION 5   -Link To MC Article-
T-bone Monson's rap

I shotgunned a half a can of Pepsi Lite
Made me wanna go an' chase some widow's mite
My driver's in good standing, he's a man that I can trust
He's got a little book of all the dames who pique my lust

Year after year
I can wiggle my ear
Line upon line
I can share a good time

A lady likes a prophet who can speak as a man
And whisper in her ear with his priesthood in her hand
A lady likes a lover who can be so discreet
He wouldn't recognize her if he saw her in the street
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Firstvisiontimeline.com - A History Of The First Vision On A Timeline
Tuesday, Apr 22, 2014, at 07:38 AM
Original Author(s): Whitethunder
Topic: FIRST VISION   -Link To MC Article-
See: http://firstvisiontimeline.com

When I first discovered that there were inconsistencies in the story Joseph Smith told of his first vision, I began researching as much as possible on the subject to get the real story. This site is the result of my efforts.

The site is designed to compare Joseph Smith's accounts with everything else we have on parallel timelines. That way it's easy to see where the timelines agree and differ and how the story evolved and when. Much of this information will not be new to anyone who has read about the first vision accounts and how they line up with historical records, but you probably haven't seen all the source material to back it all up, which I have linked all over the place inline with the text.

I have tried my best to make it neutral. I'm hoping that it can be shared with anyone interested in the First Vision so that the real story can be told in a (kind of) concise and visually appealing way.

If you have any suggestions for improvement or accuracy, please let me know.

Special thanks to kimball and H. Michael Marquardt for assistance with tracking down images of original documents.
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To Those In Japan - Beware Of Mormon Owned/Run English Classes
Monday, Apr 21, 2014, at 07:44 AM
Original Author(s): Livinginjapan
Topic: EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 24   -Link To MC Article-
So, I was eating at an Italian restaurant here in Japan, with my Japanese friend, and I saw a table that had ads and coupons for other businesses usually local businesses, near the entrance. My friend picked up one of the papers, and sai d (in Japanese) "What's this, it seems to be free English classes". Anyway, I took a look at the paper, and to my disbelief and disgust, it was a paper for an Mormon organization(?) called "Goeigo". (Eigo means English, in Japanese). (The website is Goeigo.org)

Despite being Mormon affiliated, neither the ad nor the website used the word 'Mormon'. Instead, they used the long proper name, as well as the acronym LDS. The thing is, most Japanese people have heard of "Mormon", but not "LDS" or the longer name. So they don't realize it's the same church. My friend, who is fairly intelligent and well-read about global politics, religion and such did not recognize the name of the "church", so I had to tell my friend, "It's basically a Mormon organization. Do not trust them." My friend, who knows about the church, and has a negative impression about them, then said, "Thanks for telling me about it. I already go to a non-religious English conversational school, so I would have no need for this stuff, anyway."

I think it's disingenuous, because the organization seemed to deliberately use the word LDS and the longer name, in a country that is not really familiar with those names.

They claim to offer free English classes (saying "All of our instructors are native speakers"), and say that the students themselves have to provide the textbooks to use.

While at least they are being honest that their purpose to help Japanese people converse in English, I'm a bit skeptical because of the bait and switch tactics the missionaries have used in this country for years. Also, while it's marginally a better way to spend time (both for missionaries and local Japanese),instead of bugging Japanese people at train stations or on the street, I'm worried about the missionaries and/or instructors taking advantage of their position to prey on people and lure people in to the cult.

To be fair though, a quick glance of Japanese language message boards, social media, Q&A sites, and Google searches reveal that quite a few Japanese people know (or found out?) it's a Mormon organization, and are warning people that there are other ways (non religious ways) to learn English. Of course, there's always going to be gullible people who won't know.

Here are some translations of reactions (by Japanese people) about this organization (or TSCC) that I found online. This is from a thread that was talking abou Goeigo. Goeigo has locations (makeshift classrooms) nationwide.

"The Mormons, right? They're basically not allowed to consume caffeine. That means, they can't even drink tea! That's so horrible."

"The fact that they are trying to claim to teach English, rather than convert you, ironically makes it sound more fishy/suspicious."

"I've been there, and they tried to convert me. If you just want to learn English, I don't recommend it."

"I've been there too, and while the religious pushiness was irritating, the conversations weren't bad per se."

"Go there only if you want the Mormon church to know your personal information. I heard they are relentless in terms of tracking you down."

"If they truly are doing this as a volunteer, like a volunteer organization as they claim to be, then why are they collecting personal information of their students? It makes me suspicious about how they will use that info."

"I think the Mormon 'religion' is like the 3rd worst cult you could ever join; the worst would be the Aum cult (responsible for the sarin gas attack in 95), the 2nd would be the Moonies. 3rd, the Mormons."

"Here's my experience going there....On my first day, I had some basic explanations about their service, then I got a nametag, then we sang a religious song, then we prayed, and then we started conversing in English. Anyway, I was made to read some some of paper about the Mormons. It's not forcing you to be a member, but they also said that as a student of Goeigo, I had to listen to some elder talk about Mormonism, every 2 weeks. At least in my case, I wasn't specifically prolysetized."

"If you ever see a Mormon, ask them if they know about Mormons and Pyramid Schemes. I swear that they will vehemently deny that, and say that it's supposed to be called 'Multi-Level Marketing'."

"If you want to just chitchat in English, you'd be better off going to a Philippine Pub (note: nightclub that employs Filipinas as the hostesses)"

"I've been to Goeigo before, but never tell anybody your phone number or your address. There's also allegedly a Mormon who's pretending to be a another student there, that might use that info to recruit you. If there are social events that you get invited to, during your time at Goeigo, don't go to those Mormon social events."

"They may be able to 'teach' you English for free, but the members of the church must pay 10% of their income to the church. So, if you only earn 2 million yen a year, you have to pay 200000 yen (note: about 2000 dollars) a year to the church if you become a member. That's not cheap at all."

"I went to the Goeigo class briefly, then I didn't go after that. Anyway, I got phone calls from them, and after I ignored those calls, they came to my house! They're like stalkers, basically."

"The 'We teach English for free' thing is a bait. If you become interested in Mormonism because of that, and you join the church, you have to pay 10% of your income to the church. You're better off going to a proper English conversation school, even if it costs money."

"I'm a Japanese Mormon, but I'm becoming skeptical of Mormonism. When I tried to join Goeigo and take classes there, they told me that I hadn't paid tithing, so I couldn't attend. Yet never-Mormons can attend for free."

"I went to the Goeigo classroom in Sagamihara city a few times. There was no outright push to join the church, but we did have to pray. That said, from my experiences, I don't think it's useful to improve your conversational abilities."

"They seem to have a lot of money to create an organization like this, given that the believers must pay 10% of their income. But the Mormon church doesn't seem to understand that there is no way that a 'religion' that bans tea would be able to go mainstream in Japan, a country that has a long history and culture revolving around tea. They must be complete idiots to not understand that."

"When I was at the train station this evening, I saw some really suspicious looking foreign guys passing out flyers about this so-called free English class."

"Seriously, what kind of loser joins the Mormon church in this day and age??? If you become baptized and become a Mormon, it's like walking around with a T-shirt that sayd 'I'm an idiot who can't say no'"
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The Church's Trademarked HeartSell Methodology
Thursday, Apr 17, 2014, at 09:56 AM
Original Author(s): Lloyd Dobler
Topic: CHURCH PROPAGANDA   -Link To MC Article-
The church, through Bonneville International, has trademarked this method of selling ideas to the public. Here's what their website says about it:
"Our unique strength is the ability to touch the hearts and minds of our audiences, evoking first feeling, then thought and, finally, action. We call this uniquely powerful brand of creative "HeartSell"® - strategic emotional advertising that stimulates response."
See: http://www.bonneville.com/?nid=32

When I first heard about HeartSell, well, I just could not believe it. One of the most precious and special things a member or convert goes through is their "conversion" to the church. We all know the drill...........person seeks to know if it is all true and that great guy, the Holy Ghost, visits with his confirming witness. For most people that I know, it really was not when they prayed etc......it was when they simply experienced something emotional (spiritual) within a pre constructed paradigm given to them by the church. This paradigm gives context to the emotional experience, it gives the experience meaning.......of course that meaning being that the church is true. It was all about setting the rules first because then the emotions will follow the rules. Once you get a person to buy into a paradigm that whenever they feel good, that it means the church is true, I mean, hell, they will sell their lives to it. In the case of Heartsell, the hope is that people will buy or trust into it (it being whatever product or service is being offered)

It should come as no surprise that the church does this. I mean just think of how much money they have made using this same pattern off of their members. Why not take that show on the road and make money? I don't think it is that mormons are particularly stupid....its just that this kind of approach works on people, religious or not.

Today, and for at least the last 30 years, conversion has meant a very specific and step by step process to knowing the church is true. I wonder if it has always been this way. Obviously Moronis promis has always been around but maybe how one comes to gain their testimony as we know it today really became codified around the time of correlation or sometime after. I would think that even knowing the church is true has been streamlined and made more efficient over time.

The church sure does have it down to a science today. Things like TREK or girls camp or Book of Mormon reading programs are nothing more than HeartSell initiatives where the church is throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the kids to get them to say "i know". Its about gaining the commitment or the sale and nothing more. Its really not about what is true or right and the last thing it is about is the person or kid because that person or kid needs to say "I know" god damnit and if they did not at TREK this summer well, we will get them at the next one.

heartsell just gutted me as I was losing my testimony because it exposed what the church was really up to and god had nothing to do with it. Of course, I played along on my mission. Me and my comp would routinely discuss which church video would best get the members to "feel the spirit". What we were really doing was choosing the video that would manipulate their emotions the most. You know the videos:
  • Together Forever (the one to show if a loved one has been lost or if you want to leverage that)
  • The Prodigal Son (the one to show if someone has struggled with drugs, sex, cheating, etc)
  • What is Real (a bit of a catch all but I always found it great to manipulate the shit out of people with not too many friends)
HeartSell and the Church suck big time.
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LDS Church Announces Flexible Lease Membership For Returning Members
Wednesday, Apr 16, 2014, at 09:24 AM
Original Author(s): Donbagley
Topic: COMEDY - SECTION 5   -Link To MC Article-
LDS Church Announces Flexible Lease Membership for Returning Members:

Plan fees are monthly*

For $199.99 you get the basic membership plan. Local church services are included. Callings are limited to two per person and toilet cleanings not to exceed twice per calendar month. Arrears tithing forgiven with all plans.

For just $299.99 you get the enhanced basic. All local services plus limited temple access (dates subject to change). One calling and toilet cleaning per month each.

For $599.99 you'll enjoy the premium package plan. First to third row pews with seat saving privileges. Unlimited temple access. All callings optional and no toilets.

Discerning members may decide to pay $999.99 for the ambassador class. Members at this level will receive a multi-pass for all events including conference. Dinners with leaders will be available with a modest surcharge.

*$5,000 lease signage fee
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Remembering The Forgotten Women Of Joseph Smith: Almera Johnson
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2014, at 08:05 AM
Original Author(s): Winterbuzz
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY - SECTION 2   -Link To MC Article-

This is an ongoing series to remember the early women of Church history who are largely forgotten today. You can read the previous entries here.

 

Almera Johnson was born on Octber 12, 1812 in Westford in Chittenden County, Vermont to parents Ezekiel and Julia Hills Johnson. Her older sister Delcena Johnson Sherman was also a plural wife of Joseph Smith. Both were part of a large family and grew up with a very religious mother and an alcoholic father. [1]

Almera and her family gathered with the Saints in Kirtland, Ohio, then Missouri and eventually Macedonia, Illinois, approximately twenty miles east of Nauvoo. Almera’s brother, Benjamin, became close with Joseph Smith and was appointed the agent for church property in Macedonia.

On April 1, 1843, Joseph visited Macedonia and stayed at the Johnson home. Delcena Johnson, Almera and Benjamin’s older sister, had married Joseph ten months earlier and was living with another of Joseph’s wives, Louisa Beaman. As was common for these types of visits with Joseph, he took Benjamin for a long walk in the woods, the two sat down on a log and as Benjamin recalls, “[One morning Joseph said] ‘Come brother Bennie, let us have a walk’. [As we walked Joseph explained] that the Lord had revealed to him that plural….marriage was according to His law; [and] had commanded him to obey it…He had Come now to ask me for my Sister Almera – His words astonished me and almost took my breath – I Sat for a time amazed…[I could not] comprehend anything. I….Said: ‘Brother Joseph This is something I did not Expect…You know whether it is right. I do not. I want to do just as you tell me…But how…Can I teach my Sister what I mySelf do not understand.”

Joseph then promised Benjamin he would preach a sermon later that evening, saying it would relate to this doctrine in a way that only Benjamin would understand. That evening Joseph spoke on the parable of the talents, which in this case Benjamin understood to mean wives: To him who increased his talents, more talents would be given; but to him that had only one, the talent would be taken away (Matthew 25:15).

“To me there was a horror in the idea of speaking to my sister upon such a subject; the thought of which made me sick. I stood before her trembling, my knees shaking; Just…as I found powr to open my mouth it was filled…and the subject that had Seemed So dark, now apeared…most lucid & plain…. her heart was not yet won.”

Apparently resisting the idea of plural marriage at first, Joseph asked Benjamin to bring Almera to Nauvoo. “…my sister accompanied me to Nauvoo, where at my sister Delcena’s we soon met the Prophet with his brother Hyrum and William Clayton.”

Hyrum Smith pulled Benjamin aside and told Benjamin that Joseph was acting in God’s name. He then turned to Almera and said, “I know that Joseph was comanded to take more wives and he waited Untill an Angel with drawn Sword Stood before him and declared that if [he] longer delayed fulfilling that command he would Slay him…The Lord has revealed the principle of plural marriage to me and I know that it is true. I will have you for a sister, and you will be blest…. [Hyrum] came to me and said I need not be afraid. I had been fearing and doubting about the principle and so had he, but he now knew it was true. After this time I lived with the Prophet Joseph as his wife.”

Benjamin recalls the ceremony: “the Prophet with Louisa Beeman and my Sister Delcena had it agreeabley aranged with sister Almara and after a little instruction, She Stood by the Prophets Side & was Sealed to him as a wife by Brother Clayton. After which the Prophet asked me to take my Sister to ocupy Room No 10 in his Mansion Home dureing her Stay in the City.” Almera and Benjamin stayed in Nauvoo for three weeks, and then returned to Macedonia. [2]

Three weeks later, Joseph visited his new wife, Almera, in Macedonia. Benjamin Johnson made several statements about Almera and Jospeh’s marital bed, and the relationship is one of the more documented marriages with this type of information:
“[Joseph Smith] remained two days, lodging at my house with my sister as man and wife (and to my certain knowledge he occupied the same bed with her). This visit was on the 16th and 17th of May, 1843, returning to Nauvoo on the 18th. “ [3]

“[As] for my younger sister the Prophet made me the medium of his courtship; and I saw her married to him in the summer of 1843, and I further know that they roomed together as husband and wife at various times in my home at Macedonia, where he associated with other of his plural wives and various times as he had occasion.”
[4]

“The Prphet again Came and at my house occupied the Same Room & Bed with my Sister that the month previous he had occupied with the Daughter of the Late Bishop Partridge…” [5]

Almera also later said, “I lived with the prophet Joseph as his wife and he visited me at the home of my brother Benjamin F.” [6]

After Joseph Smith’s death, Almera married Reuben Barton who was widowed with three children. The marriage between Almera and Reuben produced five daughters. [7] Almera’s first daughter, Mary Ellen, was born in 1846 and died only two years later. Her fourth infant, Almera Melissa died before reaching one year of age. The death apparently affected Almera’s health for a time.


Reubun Barton, Almera’s husband “for time only.” 

Their third daughter, Lois, was mentally impaired. Almera apparently felt guilty and responsible for her child’s condition, “Almera wondered if it was punishment because she remaried.”

In 1860, Reuben became disillusioned with the LDS church, causing marital discord and Almera and Reuben separated. Almera traveled to Utah with her three remaining daughters in 1861, settling in Parowan, Utah. Her youngest child, Harriet died in the winter of 1862 at the age of eight.
Meanwhile, still in the east and at the forty-ninth year of his age, Reuben was for the second time without a wife and sadly this time also without his children. On October 20, 1867, Reuben married for the third time, this time to Maria J. Carothers, the youngest of a large family.

We don’t know much about Almera’s life in Utah, except that she cared tenderly for Lois, used herbal treatments for her illnesses, and had family close by, in whom she found comfort.
Almera would go three more decades in Utah where she would care for Lois, until they both passed away in the mid 1890’s. Lois passed away on September 2, 1893, the victim of dropsy. Lois was the last of the five daughters to pass away and we know Almera was alive to bury her. On March 4, 1896, and after many years of crippling arthritis, Almera passed away of a ‘paralytic stroke’ at age age eight-three. [8]

 

 

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SOURCES:

1. Todd Compton, Review of In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith,” pg. 289
2. ^ pg. 291-298
3. Joseph F. Smith Affidavit Books, 2:6-7, 1869, CHL MS 3423 fd 5; Jenson, Historical Record, 6:222.
4. Benjamin F. Johnson letter to Frank Feely, Dec 10, 1897, in the John M. Whitaker Papers, CHL. See also MS 5, bx 27, fd 7, CHL.
5. Dean R. Zimmerman, I Knew the Prophets, 44.; My Life’s Review. Independence, MO: Zion’s Printing and Publishing Co., 1947, 96
6. Almera W. Johnson, affidavit dated August 1, 1883, digitized holograph, MS 3423, CHL.[1]; “The Origin of Plural Marriage, Joseph F. Smith, Jr., Deseret News Press, page 70-71.
7. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9317876
8. Todd Compton, Review of In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith,” pg. 304

See: http://www.feministmormonhousewives.o...
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The Term "Anti-Mormon"
Tuesday, Apr 15, 2014, at 08:00 AM
Original Author(s): Churock11
Topic: EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 24   -Link To MC Article-
Just read Bill McKeever's article, "Anti-Mormon: The Mormon N-Word". I really like the comparison, and it gets to the root of the polarizing nature of the term, just like accusing TBMs of being "cultists." Might be true in a sense, but the accusation doesn't make much progress.

See: http://www.mrm.org/anti-mormon

This quote particularly stood out:
In my opinion, Mormons who lump those who challenge the truth claims of Mormonism with the persecutions of the past actually bring dishonor to the Mormon pioneers who truly suffered. Considering what some of the early Mormons went through, I am sure they would view with contempt a modern Mormon who whines about being "persecuted" simply because someone challenged their faith.
Another article that discusses the "anti-Mormon" effect is this one - "Games Mormon People Play" (See: http://www.pfo.org/gameplay.htm) , discussing how to bypass this "tuning out."

I've had to continually remind myself that TBMs and even doubting members can only take so much at a time until their fight-or-flight response sends them into prophet-warrior or mental shutdown. It's funny how some of the missionary tactics work just as well in persuading someone to look critically at the facts.
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Elder Oaks Speech On Religious Freedom
Monday, Apr 14, 2014, at 07:12 AM
Original Author(s): Stealth
Topic: DALLIN H. OAKS   -Link To MC Article-
This is a transcript of Elder Dallin H. Oaks' Speech Given at Chapman University School of Law:

See: http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article...

Quote:
Many of the great moral advances in Western society have been motivated by religious principles and moved through the public square by pulpit-preaching. The abolition of the slave trade in England and the Emancipation Proclamation in the United States are notable illustrations. These revolutionary steps were not motivated and moved by secular ethics or coalitions of persons who believed in moral relativism. They were driven primarily by individuals who had a clear vision of what was morally right and what was morally wrong. In our time, the Civil Rights movement was, of course, inspired and furthered by religious leaders.
What he doesn't say here is some of the most vigorous opposition to ending slavery and opposition to supporting civil rights also had a religious basis. I would also refer Elder Oaks to the 1964 letter sent to Governor George Romney of Michigan from Apostle Delbert Stapley who chastised Romney for his "most liberal" views on civil rights and called the legislation "vicious". Surely both men had differing but religiously motivating views on the subject.

See: http://www.boston.com/news/daily/24/d...

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Religion also strengthens our nation in the matter of honesty and integrity. . . .These standards and practices of honesty and integrity rest, ultimately, on our ideas of right and wrong, which, for most of us, are grounded in principles of religion and the teachings of religious leaders.
A lecture on honesty? Really!!!??? Has Elder Oaks' heard of the policy of "only faith promoting history"? The church has been dishonest with us from the beginning. He is not making a good case for religion if he is using an argument of honesty and integrity as a pillar. That is a weak pillar indeed!

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Organized religion is surely on the decline. Last year's Pew Forum Study on Religion and Public Life found that the percentage of young adults affiliated with a particular religious faith is declining significantly.8 Scholars Robert Putnam and David Campbell have concluded that "the prospects for religious observance in the coming decades are substantially diminished."

Whatever the extent of formal religious affiliation, I believe that the tide of public opinion in favor of religion is receding. A writer for the Christian Science Monitor predicts that the coming century will be "very secular and religiously antagonistic," with intolerance of Christianity "ris[ing] to levels many of us have not believed possible in our lifetimes."
Karma much? Intolerance? Of course religion hasn't ever been intolerant has it Elder Oaks??? After all we wouldn't want to fall into a "tolerance trap" would we? Quote:
The prohibition against "an establishment of religion" was intended to separate churches and government, to forbid a national church of the kind found in Europe. In the interest of time I will say no more about the establishment of religion, but only concentrate on the First Amendment's direction that the United States shall have "no law [prohibiting] the free exercise [of religion]." For almost a century this guarantee of religious freedom has been understood as a limitation on state as well as federal power.
He doesn't want to talk about the establishment clause because it doesn't fit with his agenda to push for the use of government to enforce religious dogma or doctrine on the country. Gay Marriage is a good example of this. Also, you also won't hear him supporting the religious freedom and free exercise of it of religions that approave of same-sex marriage. It is only the religious freedom of those who agree with his doctrine that he supports.

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Along with many others, I see a serious threat to the freedom of religion in the current assertion of a "civil right" of homosexuals to be free from religious preaching against their relationships.
Gay rights are human rights. When I last marched in a gay pride parade there was a preacher on the street standing up and condemning LGBT people with his megaphone!!!! Nobody is trying to stop preaching! Nobody is trying to muzzle him from saying that "fags will go to hell" or put him in jail for his religious belief or expression or speech or practice. Nobody is rounding up the Westboro Baptist Church members when they protest at funerals because their religion demands then to preach against gay people.

Not cool Elder Oaks! LGBT people are just saying that when it comes to civil society they should have the same rights as you and anyone else. Your speech is much like those who said "A Bible, a bible, we already have a bible" except you are saying "I already have my rights and there shall be no more".
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Elder Bednar Perpetuates A Falsehood About The Savior
Thursday, Apr 10, 2014, at 08:09 AM
Original Author(s): Everybody Wang Chung
Topic: DAVID A. BEDNAR   -Link To MC Article-
I’m a little disappointed Elder Bednar didn’t omit from the printed version of his general conference speech (https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... e?lang=eng) (the link to which is above), his declaration that revelation tells us that April 6 is “the actual and accurate date of the Savior’s birth”. When I went back and listened to the speech on Monday, before the printed version came out, I was disappointed that he’d said something like that in a prolific event like General Conference, when there has never been a “thus saith the Lord” revelation about April 6 being Jesus’ birthday.

When Elder Bednar made the April 6 remark, I wondered if perhaps it was an off-the-cuff comment, not part of his prepared words, made with good intentions in the spirit of his talk’s theme, and understandably steeped in his own upbringing in the Church where most of us regular members simply accepted April 6 as Christ’s birthday without questioning it. Elder Bednar isn’t much older than me, and he was a regular member for most of his life, so he obviously grew up with the April 6 notion, too. I wondered, when I heard the comment, whether Elder Bednar was unaware of some of the recent and not-so-recent BYU and Church scholarship indicating that April 6 is most likely not the date of Jesus’ birth. But, when I read the written version of the talk, which the speakers themselves approve after making any desired modifications, it’s pretty clear that Elder Bednar was prepared to back up (in his own view, at least) what he said about April 6. He included three citations to the sources upon which he relied to support his position – however untenable – that April 6 was the day Jesus was born. Here is what the final paragraph in Bednar’s written version says:

"Today is April 6. We know by revelation that today is the actual and accurate date of the Savior’s birth. April 6 also is the day on which The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized. (See D&C 20:1; Harold B. Lee, “Strengthen the Stakes of Zion,” Ensign, July 1973, 2; Spencer W. Kimball, “Remarks and Dedication of the Fayette, New York, Buildings,” Ensign, May 1980, 54; Discourses of President Gordon B. Hinckley, Volume 1: 1995–1999 [2005], 409.) On this special and sacred Sabbath day, I declare my witness that Jesus the Christ is our Redeemer. He lives and will cleanse, heal, guide, protect, and strengthen us. Of these things I joyfully testify in the sacred name of Jesus Christ, amen."


A brief recital of why Presidents Lee, Kimball, and Hinckley may have believed that April 6 was Christ’s birthday is in order. James E. Talmage (whom I greatly admire) was the first to propose that D&C 20:1 says (in a roundabout way) that Jesus was born on April 6. His position, which was printed in Jesus the Christ, became popular to the point where it simply a matter of fact for most of us normal members. I think, however, that the April 6 legend became cemented in the modern pop-culture Church because of something Pres. Lee mentioned in General Conference in April 1973 (https://www.lds.org/general-conference/ ... n?lang=eng):

"This is the annual conference of the Church. April 6, 1973, is a particularly significant date because it commemorates not only the anniversary of the organization of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in this dispensation, but also the anniversary of the birth of the Savior, our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ."

Obviously (for there is no other explanation I can extract), Pres. Lee based his position and remarks on Elder Talmage’s interpretation of D&C 20:1. People all over Utah were watching the Conference at home on T.V., and were reading it a month later all over the Church in their Ensigns. They’d just heard the prophet declare that April 6 was Christ’s birthday, and anything the prophet says (even opinion) and anything published in the Ensign is doctrine according to Saturday’s Warrior Mormon pop-culture.

Seven years later, Pres. Kimball accidentally gave the April 6 notion a shot of adrenaline in his remarks, shortly before he dedicated the restored Whitmer farm in Fayette, New York, where the Church was formally organized on April 6, 1830. That dedication was videotaped beforehand and then broadcast during the April 1980 General Conference. In his opening remarks of the dedication (knowing that the videotaping would be broadcast in Conference on April 6, 1980), President Kimball said (https://www.lds.org/ensign/1980/05/rema ... s?lang=eng):

"My brothers and sisters, today we not only celebrate the Sesquicentennial of the organization of the Church, but also the greatest event in human history since the birth of Christ on this day 1,980 years ago. Today is Easter Sunday."

Obviously (for there is no other explanation I can see), Pres. Kimball also based his position and remarks on Elder Talmage’s interpretation of D&C 20:1, and probably also on what Pres. Lee had said seven years earlier. Again, people all over Utah and the U.S. were watching the Conference at home on T.V. or in their stake centers, and were reading it a month later all over the Church in their Ensigns. According to Jeffrey R. Chadwick’s article “Dating the Birth of Christ”, Pres. Kimball’s son and BYU Professor Edward C. Kimball told John W. Welch that he was unaware of his father ever making another comment on the date of Christ’s birth.

Pres. Hinckley, in the First Presidency Christmas Devotional in 1997, did not say that April 6 was Christ’s birthday, but did say “While we now know through revelation the time of the Savior’s birth, we observe the 25th of December with the rest of the Christian world.” Most likely, Pres. Hinckley had D&C 20:1 in mind, Talmage’s interpretation of which had long since become largely, but by no means totally, accepted in the Church. There are numerous BYU scholars who do not believe in the April 6 interpretation. Likewise, J. Reuben Clark and Bruce R. McConkie believed that December 5 B.C. or January 4 B.C. was the likely time of the Savior’s birth. And, with the exception of Lee, Kimball, and Hinckley – all of whom clearly based their opinioned comments on the long-held interpretation of D&C 20:1, no president of the Church ever commented on it, and that includes Joseph Smith. Of course, one of the benefits of the Joseph Smith Papers Project, which Presidents Lee, Kimball, and even Hinckley in 1997 did not have the benefit of, is that D&C 20:1 was added to that section years later by Church historian John Whitmer, kind of as a formal preface to the actual organizational revelation from Joseph Smith.

If you want to read some very interesting LDS research on the real date, I would recommend: https://byustudies.byu.edu/PDFViewer.as ... 7daede.pdf
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New Church Policy - General Authorities Have No Answers To Difficult Questions
Thursday, Apr 10, 2014, at 07:15 AM
Original Author(s): Craig Paxton
Topic: GENERAL AUTHORITIES   -Link To MC Article-
The following letter from the secretary of the first presidency is making the rounds in the bloggernacle and I thought I'd share it here. In the letter, addressed to a member searching for answers to difficult questions, the member-searcher is told that the answers to his questions can not come from a GA but only from the Mormon god by employing Moroni's promise Ugggg. (really? That's all they've got? They're in bigger trouble than I thought)

Is this the new policy of the church to tell its member that church authorities have no answers to their difficult questions? That the members must merely ask god? What good are GA's (the guys who claim to talk with and for god) if they can't offer answers to these questions?


here's the letter and a copy of the letter: I would like to hear your thoughts on this...
Dear *********,

Thank you for your recent letter addressed to President Dieter F. Uchtdorf. He has asked that I respond in his behalf.

You are posing the wrong questions to the wrong people. Regardless of what any of the General Authorities might tell you in person or in writing, your answer to the questions you pose must come directly from God Himself to you through the Holy Ghost, which direction you are entitled to as you honor the covenants you have made. Only God, not man, can provide the assurance and sure knowledge you are seeking. Being a long-time member as indicated in your letter, you will understand that concept and will have experienced it.

As you prayerfully and honestly consider your questions using the formula outlined in Moroni 10:3-7, you will know the truth by the power of the Holy Ghost. That knowledge will then become an unshakable anchor to you.

It is understood that this is not the response you were looking for; however, please know it is the sincere prayer of the First Presidency that you will receive the spiritual guidance you are seeking.

Sincerely,

Brook P. Hales
Secretary to the First Presidency
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Prof. Hamblin Launches A New Blog
Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at 07:46 AM
Original Author(s): Doctor Scratch
Topic: WILLIAM HAMBLIN   -Link To MC Article-
It was recently pointed out to me that Bill Hamblin has launched a new blog, called, "Enigmatic Mirror," on Patheos--a blog that will, according to Hamblin's "good friend" Daniel Peterson, "infuriate" people. I find this development very intriguing for a couple of reasons. First, Hamblin has already included repeated entries (i.e., the exact same text was posted twice) under the headings "Was Jesus a Priest?" and "DH 5: Tradition and Authorship." both of which deal with the ancient acceptability of plagiarism (??) and which attack the Documentary Hypothesis. The other reason this new blog is interesting is that it would seem to fly in the face of advice that was given to Hamblin some time back:
My department told me today in essence that both my editorial work with Interpreter, and publications with Interpreter will not be considered serious scholarship. They explicitly advised me to publish in other venues. (This has been, by the way, the consistent policy of both my department and college for a quarter of a century. I have consistently been told essentially the same thing about not publishing with FARMS by every administrator. The fact that I’ve published with FARMS in the past has directly led to delayed promotion and sub-cost of living pay raises.)
Has the policy changed? Or do the Powers That Be feel that there is a difference between posting blog entries to Mormon Interpreter versus posting them on Patheos?

Much of the blog at this point seems to be a retaliation against Bokovoy's new book. It's worth pointing out that Hamblin has been getting absolutely schooled in the "Comments" sections by some up-and-comer called "Colby."
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The Ever Changing And Deceitful Doctrine Of The Church
Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at 07:43 AM
Original Author(s): Bazooka
Topic: CHANGING DOCTRINE   -Link To MC Article-
This is D&C 20 verse 1:
1 The rise of the Church of Christ in these last days, being one thousand eight hundred and thirty years since the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the flesh, it being regularly organized and established agreeable to the laws of our country, by the will and commandments of God, in the fourth month, and on the sixth day of the month which is called April-
See: https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-tes...

This verse prompted Elder Bednar to proclaim at this recent General Conference:
May each of us do and become better through the Savior's Atonement. Today is April 6. We know by revelation that today is the actual and accurate date of the Savior's birth. April 6 also is the day on which The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized. (See D&C 20:1;
See: https://www.lds.org/general-conferenc...

Yet back in 2010, Deseret News ran an article which, in part states:
Since the early 20th century, many Mormons have thought they knew the exact date of the first Christmas. Elder James E. Talmage, an apostle of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, published a book in 1915 titled "Jesus the Christ," in which he wrote, "We believe that Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem of Judea, April 6, B.C. 1."

Elder Talmage didn't just randomly make up this date. He took it from Section 20 of the Doctrine and Covenants - a collection of revelations mostly through the Mormon founding prophet, Joseph Smith Jr. Since his book, Mormons - from church leaders to children - have accepted April 6 as the real date of Jesus' birth. But not every member of the LDS Church agreed with Elder Talmage's interpretation of Doctrine and Covenants 20.
And:
The date of April 6 comes from the date that the LDS Church was originally organized in 1830. D&C 20 begins with this introductory verse: "The rise of The Church of Christ in these last days, being one thousand eight hundred and thirty years since the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the flesh, it (the church) being regularly organized and established agreeable to the laws of our country, by the will and commandments of God, in the fourth month, and on the sixth day of the month which is called April."

Steven C. Harper, a BYU assistant professor of church history and a volume editor of the Joseph Smith Papers, said in a phone interview that some people, including Elder Talmage, have read this verse as if it is the Lord speaking and revealing precisely that Christ was born 1,830 years before that day and that the revelation was given on April 6, 1830.

The recent discovery of the Book of Commandments and Revelations manuscript of D&C 20, however, showed that the verse was actually an introductory head note written by early church historian and scribe John Whitmer - something he did for many of the revelations, Harper said. "So those are separate from the texts that Joseph produces by revelation."

The manuscript, published as part of the Joseph Smith Papers, also shows that the revelation was given on April 10 - not April 6. So although it references the organization of the church a few days earlier, the revelation - which topically has nothing to do with the birth date of Christ - and its introductory verses "shouldn't be read as if it is a revelation of the birth date of Jesus Christ," Harper said. "The interpretation that has been most popular over time is very much subject to question; that's all I'm saying."
See: http://www.deseretnews.com/artic...

The Church has had this information for at least four years and has not amended the D&C section 20 to reflect that verse one is NOT part of the revelation Joseph received. That Bednar chose to quote John Whitmers' introductory head note and portray it as a Joseph Smith revelation is an embarrassment to him and the Church. That it remains portrayed as a revelation from Joseph Smith in the D&C shows the deceitful nature of how the Church treats doctrine.
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The Polynesian Cultural Center
Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at 07:30 AM
Original Author(s): Abelup
Topic: LAMANITES   -Link To MC Article-
This fact is well warranted at this time as the Mormon religion, (commonly known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) is planning their 50th reunion of the Polynesian Cultural Center in September of 2013. This pseudo religion is a sophisticated savoir-faire business organization, with non-transparent, self government of vast schema of corrupted commercial enterprises, and glimmers of promises for "The Chosen People"-The Polynesians a place in the Celestial Kingdom. I hold immense resentment, indignation and anger towards the Mormon Church in Laie and throughout the islands of Hawaii. The Mormon Church has excavated the Polynesian culture of its spiritual serenity and has no vested interest in the preservation and or the foundation of the Polynesian Cultural Center or the recently eliminated institution of Higher Education, Church College of Hawaii.

The Mormon religion's ambition in Hawaii is to harvest the Hawaiian and Polynesian populations of their money, land, and talent for their gain. This is my story!!!!!

What the Mormon Church owns in Hawaii and how much money their business enterprise rakes in under the disguise of "not for profit," is beyond one's imagination. The Mormon Church runs several for-profit real estate arms that own, develop, and manage malls, parking lots, office parks, residential buildings, and more. Hawaii Reserves, for example, owns or manages more than 7,000 acres on Oahu, where it maintains commercial and residential buildings, parks, water and sewage infrastructure, and two cemeteries. Take for example, the Polynesian Culture Center, a very lucrative business (PCC), a 42-acre tropical theme park on Oahu's north shore that hosts luaus, canoe rides, and tours through seven simulated Polynesian villages. General-admission adult tickets cost $49.95; VIP tickets cost up to $228.95. In 2010 PCC had net assets worth $70 million dollars and collected $23 million in ticket sales alone, as well as $36 million in tax-free donations. The PCC's president, meanwhile, received a salary of $296,000, while the workers make minimum wages. At the local level, PCC opened in 1963, began paying commercial property taxes in 1992, when the Land and Tax Appeal Court of Hawaii ruled that the theme park "is not for charitable purposes" and is, in fact, a "commercial enterprise and business undertaking." Nevertheless, the tourist destination remains exempt from federal taxes because PCC claims to be a "living museum" and an education-oriented charity that employs students who work at the center to pay their way through church-run Brigham Young University-Hawaii. In its 50 years of operation PCC has netted tax free money of approximately 1 billion dollars and that money does not remain in Laie or Hawaii for the betterment of Hawaiian and Polynesian culture or people. All money is wired directly to Salt Lake City daily.

Two years ago the Mormon Church completed an ambitious project: a megamall. Built for roughly $2 billion, the City Creek Center stands directly across the street from the church's iconic neo-Gothic temple in Salt Lake City. The mall includes a retractable glass roof, 5,000 underground parking spots, and nearly 100 stores and restaurants, ranging from Tiffany's to Forever 21. Walkways link the open-air emporium with the church's perfectly manicured headquarters on Temple Square. Macy's is a stone's throw from the offices of the church's president, Thomas S. Monson, whom Mormons believe to be a living prophet.

Watching a religious leader celebrate a mall may seem surreal, but City Creek reflects the spirit of business enterprise, similar to PCC in Hawaii that animates modern-day Mormonism-making money at the expense of others. The mall is part of a sprawling church-owned corporate empire that the Mormon leadership says is helping spread its message, increasing economic self-reliance, and building the Kingdom of God on earth. Deseret Management Corp. (DMC), an umbrella organization for many of the church's for-profit businesses. "We look to not only the spiritual but also the temporal, and we believe that a person who is impoverished temporally cannot blossom spiritually."

The Mormon business enterprise has only one purpose, fill church coffers.

It's perhaps unsurprising that Mormonism-a secretive pseudo-religion, also adopts the country's secular faith in money. What is remarkable is how varied the church's business interests are and that so little is known about its financial interests, even to its members who pay tith and other monthly offering. Although a former Mormon bishop received the Republican Party's presidential nomination, and despite a recent public-relations campaign aimed at combating the perception that it is "secretive," the LDS Church remains tight-lipped about its holdings. It offers little financial transparency even to its members, who are required to tithe 10 percent of their income to gain access to Mormon temples.

Mormons make up only 1.4 percent of the U.S. population, but the church's holdings are vast. First among its for-profit enterprises is DMC, which reaps estimated annual revenue of $1.2 billion from six subsidiaries, according to the business information and analysis firm. Those subsidiaries run a newspaper, 11 radio stations, a TV station, a publishing and Distribution Company, a digital media company, a hospitality business, and an insurance business with assets worth $3.3 billion.

AgReserves, another for-profit Mormon umbrella company, together with other church-run agricultural affiliates, reportedly owns about 1 million acres in the continental U.S., on which the church has farms, hunting preserves, orchards, and ranches (Jesus was not a hunter). These include the $1 billion, 290,000-acre Deseret Ranches in Florida, which, in addition to keeping 44,000 cows and 1,300 bulls, also has citrus, sod, and timber operations. Outside the U.S., AgReserves operates in Britain, Canada, Australia, Mexico, Argentina, and Brazil. Its Australian property, valued at $61 million in 1997, has estimated annual sales of $276 million, according to Dun & Bradstreet.

"There are religious groups that own radio stations, but they don't also own cattle ranches. There are religious groups that own retreats, but they don't also own insurance companies. Given their array of corporate interests, it would probably make more sense to refer to them as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Holdings Inc."

As a religious organization, the LDS Church enjoys several tax advantages. The church also doesn't pay taxes on donated funds and holdings. Mitt Romney and others at Bain Capital, the private equity firm he co-founded in 1984, gave the Mormon Church millions' worth of stock holdings obtained through Bain deals, according to Reuters. Between 1997 and 2009, these included $2 million in Burger King and $1 million in Domino's Pizza shares. Under U.S. law, churches can legally turn around and sell donated stock without paying capital-gains taxes, a clear advantage for both donor and receiver. The church also makes money through various investment vehicles, including a trust company and an investment fund called Ensign Peak Advisors, which employs managers who specialize in international equities, cash management, fixed income, quantitative investment, and emerging markets, according to profiles on LinkedIn. Public information on Ensign Peak is sparse. In 2006 one of the fund's vice presidents, Laurence R. Stay, told the Mormon-run Deseret News, "As we trade securities, all of the trading happens essentially with a handshake. . There's lots of protections around it, but billions of dollars change hands every day just based on the ethics of the group-that people know that they can trust each other."

According to U.S. law, religions have no obligation to open their books to the public, and the LDS Church officially stopped reporting any finances in the early 1960s. In 1997 an investigation by Time used cross-religious comparisons and internal information to estimate the church's total value at $30 billion. The magazine also produced an estimate that $5 billion worth of tithing flows into the church annually, and that it owned at least $6 billion in stocks and bonds.

LDS Inc. indirectly through Ensign Peak Adisors Inc. is invested in this wonderful company.

Proof of their investment.

http://fibria.infoinvest.com.br/enu/5...

The wonderful and marvelous company from Brazil LDS Inc. owns part of.

"Despite the numerous studies identifying its territories made public in the past 7 or 8 years, Fibria continues to infringe the territorial rights of the Quilombola communities located in the north of Espíritu Santo. The State (5)(and, unofficially, the company itself!) has already admitted the occupation, by Fibria, of state-owned lands (6) . Nonetheless, the legal actions by the company are still the main obstacle standing in the way of a proper and agile process towards the land ownership legalization procedures for Quilombola territories. The company has gone as far as supporting a racist campaign through its own allies, rural land-owners who have constituted a group called “Movimento Paz no Campo” (MPC – Rural Peace Movement), a sort of regional UDR (7) , to oppose the demarcation of Quilombola territories. In the meantime, rivers and streams vanished and submerged amidst eucalyptus plantations drive communities towards a serious water crisis that directly affects food safety, as admitted by the Councilfor Food Safety, and the Committee on Human Rights relative to Adequate Nutrition."

http://wrm.org.uy/actions-and-campaig...

What would Jesus do?
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A Letter To Mormons: I Don't Need Your Sympathy.
Tuesday, Apr 8, 2014, at 11:02 AM
Original Author(s): Chelsey
Topic: LGBT - AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1   -Link To MC Article-
A note to all of those believing that being gay is a terrible burden (aka, the religion I was born into and raised in):

I don’t need your special sympathy. I'm not "of special concern".

“All should understand that persons (and their family members) struggling with the burden of same-sex attraction are in special need of the love and encouragement,” (Dallin H. Oaks, Ensign, Oct. 1995, 7–14)

My sexuality is not a burden, not should it be.

I am attracted to girls. I am not ashamed of it in the least.

The only reason it was a burden is because I was trained to believe that it was something to be ashamed of, hidden, and changed. I was trained to believe that acting on my attractions would demolish my future and revoke any chance of eternal happiness & salvation, not to mention the eternal happiness of my entire family (past, present, and future).

I was instilled with the fear of eternal damnation and misery if I were to even date someone of the same-sex. Time after time, the religion I was indoctrinated with since infancy, ensured a life of torment and sorrow by simply acting on my same-sex attraction. The possibility of living happily with someone I truly loved was inconceivable within the realm of Mormonism.

The religiously-backed, intolerable, cognitive red tape is what was a burden. Being brainwashed into believing that I was a heathen if ever I was to actually be myself, is what was a burden.

Being attracted to women? Not a burden.

Falling in love with a woman? Not a burden.

Getting married to a woman? Not a burden.

Being able to be myself? Not a burden.

Being raised Mormon? Burden.

Parents not accepting me? Burden.

Having to go to patriarchal church leaders and be told I had to be someone else in order to be happy? Burden.

Living with the threat of being kicked out of my college because of my sexuality? Burden.

Losing my family when coming out? Burden.

After years of struggling to recover form the militaristic, unaccepting environment I was raised in, I can finally say I am happy. I have deconstructed and rejected the destructive programming that I lived with for over 20 years.

Am I living a life of misery? Not at all.

Everyday, I am even more grateful that I am out, proud, and happy to be alive. I have found my own happiness.

Each day I wake up next to the love of my life. Each day I wake up with a smile on my face. I come home to my best friend, who I am absolutely in love with. We have a beautiful home, 2 adorable dogs, and successful careers.

You cannot tell me now that being gay is a burden. This is my life of happiness and I am finally starting to live it at the age of 23.

http://thechelseysidler-larteystory.b...
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Kinder, Gentler Apologetic: How Does That Work?
Monday, Apr 7, 2014, at 09:59 AM
Original Author(s): Sock Puppet
Topic: APOLOGISTS   -Link To MC Article-
I agree that personal attacks on critics, either full-blown ones or those that are NOMs, is a turn-off to the questioning TBM and any other reader. 'Metcalf is a butthead' does not do anything to save anyone's wavering faith.

What eludes me is the notion that kinder, gentler apologetics work any better. LDS apologists don't have any valid explanations. Their 'answers' don't hold water. Sure, the explanation that is not an attack at an individual like the one that Greg Smith penned about John Dehlin is not an immediate turnoff, but the apologists don't have anything close to satisfactory answers about JSJr's polyandry while he was publicly lying by denying that he had more than one wife--essentially, then, a public admission that he was an adulterer.

They don't have anything resembling an argument when it comes to the Book of Abraham, the Fax's, the Explanations or the KEP--unless you're Wade Englund and enraptured by Will Schryver's "tectonic plate shifting", "Mount Doom" cipher theory that apparently only Will and Wade fully understand.

I hear soft critics of the OMIDs proclaim their issue with OMIDs is the politics of personal destruction. I too think the OMIDs tactics distasteful. But unlike these soft critics, I think the OMIDs use such tactics because they know they're down to their ride, pal. Without the personal attacks, what are LDS apologists left with but a losing argument?

Should the OMIDs stop the personal attacks on critics, real and perceived? Sure, that would be the Christian thing to do. But then what has the LDS apologist left to offer the wavering, doubting Mormon, who already has the society, the fellowship of his ward and Mormon community? Nada, nothing.

At least with the full, frontal attack on the critic (rather than addressing the critical argument--a fail start), the OMID is not merely shoveling a big, wet, soft pile of BS that has no form or shape as logic or an argument. That disrespects the doubting Mormon just as much as the personal attack disrespects the critic.

Personal attacks are levied because that is all they LDS apologists have in their bag of tricks. It masks the fact that they have no others, that their 'arguments' pale in the fact of the critical arguments.

At the end of the day, I'm just wondering how defanging the LDS apologists from their only incisors, taking away from them the only tool at their disposal--the personal attack on the critic--is more effective than the soft, cushy BS that they'd have as their option if they give up the personal attacks?
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Holland - Desolation If You Don't Defend Mormonism
Monday, Apr 7, 2014, at 09:15 AM
Original Author(s): Ozpoof
Topic: JEFFREY R. HOLLAND   -Link To MC Article-
"desolate individuals, desolate families, desolate neighbourhoods and desolate nations."

What a depressing crock of crap.

He then goes on to intimate that some hate the Mormon prophets because they tell the truth, and lists some of the things the church leadership are called - "provincial, patriarchal, bigoted, unkind, outmoded and elderly". He forgot liar.

Then this POS goes on to claim that those outside Mormonism are opposing church leadership by demanding they prophecy lies, presumably lies such as equal rights for gays and women. He even attacks the "advocacy" of equality which he labels transgression against Christ who he sees as harsh and demanding. What would Jesus do? If thine eye offends the by looking at porn, pluck it out. If you jerk off, cut your hand off.

I don't know how this person can sleep at night. Important things like compassion for the poor and treating people with respect are ignored. Instead he claims that Jesus would not support gay happiness or women increasing their participation in his church despite Jesus never saying either thing.

He's starting to crack. He's venting his frustration in GenCon. Not long now Holland. Your CULT will die like others before it.

Desolation of your weak arguments if you try to defend an obvious fraud.

Desolation of your testimony if you ask an honest question.

Desolation of the cult, as young people ignore the old farts sitting on bloated prostrates, and google for real answers.

Desolation of the missions as the surge passes with no positive effect.

Desolation of the wards, as young men walk away from the cult.

Desolation of cult finances, as wealthy tithe payers leave.

Desolation of the Temples, as people awaken to their cult origins.

Desolation of the reputations and careers of Mormons, as the are held to account for their bigoted actions.
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"Careful With The Internet". Last Talk: "Get On LDS Dot Org."
Monday, Apr 7, 2014, at 09:10 AM
Original Author(s): Wowjustwow
Topic: EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 24   -Link To MC Article-
THIS. This is what is driving me bonkers that my family and friends can't see. The church has always been a bit back and forth on things, but NEVER have I seen it contradict it self so OFTEN the last few years. I was born and raised in all this, and I have never felt this confused.

Funny thing is, they say to stay off the 'bad sites' but what got me thinking to even look was the double talk they have been doing lately.

Search, Ponder, and Pray - Doubt your Doubts

Don't look at the Internet sites - Search all you want; we have the truth

Ask the Missionaries - But if you ask them stuff they don't like, they will rebuke you

We love all people - gay people are icky

We welcome all - as long as you are married and have lots of kids.

It was me, as a single mother, watching as many good people felt low because they were single or childless or gay. A true religion that is of love and God would not do this.

THAT is what got me to RFM - their OWN teachings. So they can blame the internet forever, and yell at the pulpit to obey, but it just threw me farther off today by hearing demands. I don't do well with people in power anyways, and they have always seemed gentle to me, but in my new thinking ways, I saw so much 'do what I say' in their eyes.

Maybe it was just me, but it frightened me at times. Plus, the second half of conference I could barely hear with the very aged ones. Hm.
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Struggling To Respond To Nosy Mormons
Monday, Apr 7, 2014, at 07:29 AM
Original Author(s): Nicole
Topic: EX-MORMONISM SECTION 26   -Link To MC Article-
I know it's April, and I'm a little late for a New Year's Resolution, but I have finally found a worthy cause. My new resolution is simple: Stop taking shit from Mormons.

Leaving the LDS Church has been quite the process, as I've mentioned before. Although it has been a psychological awakening, wonderful in many ways, it has come with a fair amount of challenges. And perhaps the greatest obstacle I'm currently overcoming is the sheer number of people who are trying their damnedest to save my soul.

They're everywhere, these people have come out of the woodwork to put their two cents in about my life, and they're rude, manipulating, and confused. People who have never had any jurisdiction over any aspect of my life now feel the necessity to assert themselves. They don't like people who break the mold. They want to squish my spirit, corrupt my new-found peace of mind, force me back into their circles of irrationality, and the kicker is that they do it "because they love me." Right.

So now, I'm going to name a number of things that REAL people have said to my face. Some of these things, nay, many of these things have been said by more than one person. and I'm not just talking about my parents.

On the subject of my education and career:

"Oh, that's great. But you know that you need to work in the home to raise children, too. When are you planning on devoting yourself to that? After you're done with school?"

On the subject of my "immodesty" (wearing shirts that are "tight" or show my shoulders, as well as shorts that go above the knee):

"Modest is hottest. You start wearing these things. It's a bad path. Bad things just happen to girls who don't wear modest clothing."

And finally, on the subject of my non-Mormon boyfriend:

"Don't you want to go to Heaven? You can't return to live with your Heavenly Father if you don't get married in the temple." "Why don't you just marry him now if you're planning on being with him??" (we've dated 6 months) "He's an awesome guy, but he's not good enough because he isn't Mormon! There's no possible way that he can be the best for you!" "Pray pray pray! I know you'll cry when you have to break up with him, but it will be better that way." "Use him for experience, like to find the qualities that you like in a person, but then find a Mormon guy who is temple worthy."

Such comments have been frequent and uninvited. So now, I'm going to practice with you the responses I should give. I'm going to try to be nice. I'm not going to try to offend anybody. But you know I will. Religious people take the mere existence of non-religious people as a direct offence.

When someone asks about me neglecting my responsibility to "multiply and replenish the earth," what I want to say is: "Do you honestly think that I'm going to school for 6 years to then turn around and give up the career I've dreamed of? If your God tells you that your primary function is to have babies, fine. But I believe that a person should NEVER have children just because a god told them to. They should want to have children, be financially ready, and decide that having children will make them happy. It's a personal choice, and it's okay to have children, or children and a career, or even just a career. If you think my duty is only in the home, you're wrong. If you think kids who were raised with a working mom turn out badly, you're wrong. If you're sexist and you believe that women are created for the sole purpose to bear your children, you're wrong. And how old do you think I am anyway? Last time I checked, I can have babies any time before I'm thirty at pretty low risk. SO THANK YOU for your interest in my reproductive `duties,' but no thanks."

When someone comments on my shorts:

"I do not get dressed for you. I don't get dressed to make you think a certain way, and I'm not responsible for the thoughts of men around me. In fact, you think that way all on your own. Perhaps you should stop looking for things to blame for the hypersexualized way you view women. Instead of teaching our girls to dress like asexual blobs to avoid `giving boys bad thoughts,' how about we teach the boys not to look at a girl in a primarily sexual way? Instead of asking a female victim of rape `why were you wearing that? You were asking for it.' Or `why were you walking alone after dark?' We should ask rapists `why the hell do you think you can rape women and then blame the victim because their shirt was tight or low cut?" I guess the thing that bothers me about people commenting on clothing is the thought process behind it. Bodies are beautiful, and sex is just one of many things that they can do. Stop making my bare thighs about sex, please."

And finally, my personal favorite, when someone comments on my boyfriend:

"You don't think I'm going to heaven. Do you think I'm going to hell, then? Who are you to make up consequences for my actions? I don't think you know exactly what happens after death, so stop trying to save my soul. The people who have actively discriminated against those outside their religion, those who have tried to break apart healthy relationships, friendships, or judged non-mormons, non-catholics, non-baptists, etc. Those are who I think are going to a hell, if there is one. If you want to chirp `love one another,' you better make it mean something other than, `love who is in your gospel and lives the way you think they should.' I believe in judging a person based on their qualities, and where they derive their goodness from. If you're only good because your gospel tells you to, you are not a good person. If you think that others are primarily bad because they don't practice the same faith as you (or any faith at all), then that simply reflects on your close-mindedness."

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General Conference: A Marketer's Perspective
Monday, Apr 7, 2014, at 07:03 AM
Original Author(s): Anonysocalexmo
Topic: GENERAL CONFERENCE   -Link To MC Article-
I've worked in advertising agencies for a couple decades. In my first gig as a copywriter, I had a really difficult client. They were resistant to third party advice, and they refused to acknowledge ANY recommendation that seemed remotely like criticism.

The core of their issue - they had a bad product that no one wanted to buy. And they refused to accept the counsel of paid professionals whom they had hired to help them.

So instead of facing their problems head on, they paid us to brainstorm "distraction" tactics - marketing maneuvers that attempted to steer consumers attention away from the "trouble spots" in hopes that they would buy their product.

Of course we knew it wouldn't work. And so we fired this particular client and ended the relationship.

My mentor at the time summed up the experience like this: "Imagine you're making a sundae. You can put all the sprinkles on it that you want - chocolate sauce, sprinkles, cookie bits, mini cheesecakes. But if the ice cream is bad, all you're left with is a shitty sundae. And we're not in the business of selling shit."

I'm looking at my Facebook feed now. There are dozens of professionally produced "Pinterest quotes" from general authorities. These things did not pop up spontaneously. These quotes were given to designers in advance of General Conference, produced, sent through multiple rounds of revisions, and set on a timer to automatically publish around the same time the talk was given.

But look at these quotes. They don't dive into the meaning of life. They won't help anyone live. It's "sprinkles." Bullshit you can share on your Facebook and Pinterest page, but won't help you get through the next day of your life.

To fit in to modern society, the church has shunned most of it's core - the true inquisitive American spirit that lead a young boy to the woods to pray if God really existed. The innovative, experimental approach that lead to some admittedly weird shit - polygamy and the endowment - but was probably the most open-minded and refreshing religious conversation to happen on American soil to date.

And now to distract people from the core of Mormonism and make themselves seem relevant, they publish "sprinkles" this (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...) , this (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...) and this (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...).

This is not a sustainable marketing strategy. You won't win the war with sprinkles gentlemen. And people will only buy shitty sundaes for so long until they realize they've been wasting their time and money on shit.
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Dallin Hoax's Talk - He Lies Or Spews Garbage In Almost Every Sentence
Thursday, Apr 3, 2014, at 09:06 AM
Original Author(s): Ozpoof
Topic: DALLIN H. OAKS   -Link To MC Article-
See: https://video.byui.edu/media/Dallin+H...

Also a discussion of this load of crap on the Mormon Expositor podcast http://mormonexpositor.com/66-respond...

This lawyer KNOWS a lot of what he is saying is not true. It's a ridiculous attempt to brainwash those kids. Hopefully most will see through it. Science is continually proving religion false. The fact the LDS CULT has to change its fucking scripture to avoid looking like idiots proves they have capitulated to scientific fact under the undeniable truth that such incredible tools as DNA testing has provided.

Hoax attacks atheists by claiming only God can provide humans with a morality needed to initiate and enforce laws that protect the innocent. This of course is a lie. He neglects to acknowledge that it is religion - i.e men claiming to speak for God - that allows the enforcement of laws that abuse and attack the innocent.

He attacks moral relativism, then he as a bloody LAWYER claiming to be an Apostle who communicates directly with Christ stands there and LIES for the Lord. Moral relativism does not mean open slather. It doesn't mean people are able to say and do anything to gain. RELIGION however does allow people to tell themselves that it's OK to deceive if lies keep people within religion.

This POS is dangerous. He's not just standing there telling lies to ensure the revenue stream of the CULT, he's there talking to a few gay kids thinking they are damaged and are in the depths of self loathing and despair and who believe they are pretty much Sons or daughters of Perdition anyway, so who cares what they do right? He's there making sure kids with same sex attraction can't ever openly meet or connect so they have to trawl parks for anonymous and dangerous sex at night. He's there making kids with NATURAL sexual desires of all persuasions feel evil because they masturbate.

What he ignores, conveniently, is the way the LDS CULT has chosen to pretty much stay out of the bedrooms of married heterosexuals. The CULT no longer states that oral sex between married partners is evil. They don't dictate to married people whether they should use birth control. No. Once people are married and pumping out just enough kids so they don't start demanding aid from the CULT, they are left alone. That wasn't always so. How's that for moral relativism Hoax?

The bloody CULT is always changing. They are the ultimate moral relativists comparing themselves to "The World", except they are not and have never remained a stable moral rock. They move with the world, only 60 years behind. They are relatively the same moral distance from the world as they have always been - way behind the empathy and compassion of the secular world, or completely immoral and deluded into believing anything a sex-addicted, known liar and sociopath says is God's law.

Mormon morals allow for blatant lies, deception by omission, misuse of funds donated for good works, talking gay kids into suicide, making people with ordinary human desires and behaviours feel like a shitting demon etc etc.
 
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  · TITHING - SECTION 2 (25)
  · TITHING - SECTION 3 (22)
  · UGO PEREGO (5)
  · UK COURTS (7)
  · UNNANOUNCED, UNINVITED AND UNWELCOME (36)
  · UTAH LIGHTHOUSE MINISTRY (3)
  · VALERIE HUDSON (3)
  · VAN HALE (16)
  · VAUGHN J. FEATHERSTONE (1)
  · VIDEOS (30)
  · WARD CLEANING (4)
  · WARREN SNOW (1)
  · WELFARE - SECTION 1 (0)
  · WENDY L. WATSON (7)
  · WHITE AND DELIGHTSOME (11)
  · WILFORD WOODRUFF (6)
  · WILLIAM HAMBLIN (12)
  · WILLIAM LAW (1)
  · WILLIAM SCHRYVER (5)
  · WILLIAM WINES PHELPS (3)
  · WOMEN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 1 (24)
  · WOMEN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 2 (25)
  · WOMEN AND MORMONISM - SECTION 3 (37)
  · WORD OF WISDOM (7)
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