Containing 5,717 Articles Spanning 332 Topics  
Ex-Mormon News, Stories And Recovery  
Online Since January 1, 2005  
PLEASE NOTE: If you have reached this page from an outside source such as an Internet Search or forum referral, please note that this page (the one you just landed on) is an archive containing articles on "CALLINGS". This website, The Mormon Curtain - is a website that blogs the Ex-Mormon world. You can read The Mormon Curtain FAQ to understand the purpose of this website.
⇒  CLICK HERE to visit the main page of The Mormon Curtain.
  CALLINGS
Total Articles: 11
In addition to regular church work Mormons are given what are called "Callings". These callings can be teaching the primary children, Elders Quorum President, Bishops, and even janitors.

When particular positions are necessary to fill in the local Mormon Wards, Mormon authority figures meet and decide who will best fit that position. A calling is then extended to that Mormon member and the member may choose whether or not to accept the calling.

Mormons are taught that rejecting callings is the same as rejecting Jesus Christ.

In recent years the Mormon Church has been laying off paid workers who clean Mormon Ward Houses and Church Office Buildings - and replacing them with callings - a source of free labor.
topic image
Is It Ok For Mormons To Not Accept Church Callings?
Thursday, Jan 1, 2004, at 02:35 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
Here's what an apostle said in a recent General Conference:

"I often hear about members who refuse Church callings or accept callings and fail to fulfill their responsibilities. Some are not committed and faithful. It has always been so. But this is not without consequence."

"The Savior spoke of the contrast between the faithful and the unfaithful in three great parables recorded in the 25th chapter of Matthew.... And when the Lord came in His glory, He separated the sheep, who had served Him and their fellowmen, from the goats, who had not. Only those who had "done it unto one of the least of these my brethren" were set on His right hand to inherit the kingdom prepared from the foundation of the world."

"My brothers and sisters, if you are delinquent in commitment, please consider who it is you are refusing or neglecting to serve when you decline a calling or when you accept, promise, and fail to fulfill. I pray that each of us will follow this inspired declaration:"

"There's surely somewhere a lowly place
In earth's harvest fields so wide
Where I may labor through life's short day
For Jesus, the Crucified.
(Hymns, no. 270)"

Jesus showed the way. Even though He shrank from the bitter path that led through Gethsemane and Calvary, He submissively said to the Father, "Nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done".
"For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?" We need to remember the purpose of our service to one another. If it were only to accomplish some part of His work, God could dispatch "legions of angels," as Jesus taught on another occasion. But that would not achieve the purpose of the service He has prescribed. We serve God and our fellowmen in order to become the kind of children who can return to live with our heavenly parents.

- Dallin H. Oaks, "I'll Go Where You Want Me to Go," October 2002 General Conference, Ensign, Nov. 2002, Page 67

Now what is Dallin Oaks really saying here?

1. Refusing callings is not without "consequences."
2. Members who refuse callings are like the goats who do not inheret the kingdom.
3. Refusing callings is paramount to being unfaithful to "Jesus, the Crucified."
4. Members should just be submissive like Jesus and say "not my will, but thine, be done."
5. You could lose your soul for not accepting church callings.
6. Members serve in callings in order to be the kind of "children" who will return to heaven.

And they say Mormonism is not a manipulative cult?
topic image
Here Are Some Short Stories From Mormons Who Did Not Accept Callings.
Tuesday, Jan 4, 2005, at 02:57 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
- - - - -
I have a funny story about my former bishop. He's the type of guy that wanted to be a bishop-to climb the priesthood ladder. A real jerk. He never wanted to look infallable so was always trying to cover his butt. Anyway, my DH was asked to be a scout leader and reluctantly accepted the calling. After about a month, he went to see the bishop to tell him that he just couldn't be a scout leader because of some really bad experiences he had as a boy in scouts. He was immediately released. A few months later I was in the bishop's office asking to be released from my callings and the bishop said, "You know Poopstone, when your husband asked to be released from his calling I immediately felt a comfirmation from the spirit that it was the right thing and with you I'm just not feeling that confirming spirit. I'm going to have to take it to the Lord." I'm sitting there thinking, "If you're so in tune with the spirit, why the hell did you call him in the first place!" He always acted like he was so righteous. He came across as the most fake person I'd met.
- - - - -
How's about the old 'ward greeters' calling? Was anyone else ever THAT highly esteemed? Then there was the nursery calling. My child was only about 10 months old or so. I told him I couldn't do it because I had to tend to my VERY ACTIVE child, and that DH couldn't watch him because of his calling teaching SS. He suggested that I let the 16 and 17 year olds watch him for me while I was in there. Yeah, I'm sure I'd do that with my first-born, as a still-nervous mom. I didn't even know any of them! I'm sure God had such a plan in mind. He was very pushy about it, and really angered me. I still turned it down.
- - - - -
After my first child was born, the bishopric decided that my wife and I should be teaching during the same hour of church. One of the counselors told me they were giving DH a calling in the primary while I was teaching in Sunday School. I looked at him and asked him who was supposed to be taking care of our new baby during that hour. He suggested my parents (who lived in the ward). I asked who was suppose to watch the baby when my parents were gone (about every six weeks). He suggested one of the primary presidency. I realized the hints weren't working so I said "Come on Doug. That isn't going to work." Now mind you, this is the ward I grew up in and he was the father of a girl that I grew up with. I kissed that daughter in a play as a teen. He scared me to death as a teen. He looked back at me and said "Yeah, you're right."
- - - - -
A few months back I had a conversation with a friend who was now the Stake YW pres. We were talking about this "Divine Insperation of callings". She shared with me that prior to her getting called as Stake YW Pres that she was "Called" to be her wards early morning seminary teacher. She went home and discussed this call with her husband. The next day she returned to talk to the stake pres about the calling and said that it would not work for her and her family. She shared with the SP that the reason why she couldn't do this was the following:

1. She had young children 4,8,15,17.

2. Her husband worked out of town during the week.

The stake president said that he was very dissapointed that she was turning this call down. He said that she needed to just "FIND A BABYSITTER" for her 8 and 4 year old or bring them to the church. AT 6am. NOT! Or leave them at home alone. It's only for an hour or so.

She was upset, however, this was not the icing on the cake yet. The next sunday, one of the high councillors came up to her and said how disgusted he was with the fact that she would turn down a calling from god. She looked at him and said that he had know clue on what the situation was like in the walls of her home. HC told her that he was impressed that she was the next seminary teacher and that his priesthood power was correct. (THE NERVE).
- - - - -
When I was called to be YW pres my kids were 5 and 2, dh works shiftwork so he wasn't around in the evenings to watch the kids. I hate to pay a babysitter if you do church stuff. Also, I just had my third child, I begged, threatened and finally ended up not being even able to do my calling because I had such a hard high risk pregnancy. The funny thing that the bishopbric said was, well, we know that you are in the hospital on bedrest, but you have a phone next to you. Just do your calling over the phone, plan camp... Was my blood ever boiling. DH finally exploded and that was that I was released. The ironic thing was that even though I had my baby 3 1/2 weeks early and I was released they still wanted me to drive 2 hours with my premie to camp to help out! Only a week after I delivered. What the hell?!
- - - - -
A couple of months back, the Bishop dropped by the house to call DW as the new YW president. He gave this whole dramatic speech about how he knew this is where the Lord wanted her to serve, how he'd been inspired to call her to the position, blah, blah, blah. After she accepted, he went to the stake president to request that DW be released from her rather minor calling as stake newspaper editor so she could serve as YW president. The stake president, despite much pleading and begging on the part of the Bish, absolutely refused to release her, claiming that it would be too difficult to find and train a replacement. So after his big speech, the Bishop had to come crawling back to DW and actually rescind the calling. The bish was completely rattled. DW was totally pissed. Meanwhile, I'm in the background with an evil glint in my eye, rubbing my hands together, and muttering "Eeexsellent" under my breath, because this little sequence of events really gave DW a big push along the path to partial NOMdom.
- - - - -
During my two years at the Lord's graduate business school, I was a studying maniac. I was valedictorian at my undergraduate college, and I would be damned if anyone else was going to do better than I in graduate school. For two years, I slept four hours a night, took NoDoz (no coffee because it would be against the WoW), and ran on adrenaline. During the last year my wife was pregnant with a very difficult pregnancy, throwing up on average a dozen times a day for the first six months, but being an insensitive slob (I've learned since then), I kept studying so I could graduate at the top of my class. My oldest child was born about two weeks before the end of the program. I got a job out of the area and got settled. Just as we were getting settled, I received a call from someone in the stake. He asked me to meet him at the church the next sunday. I did. Because the Lord told the stake president, whom I hadn't met, that I was the one to be a seminary teacher in our area, I was being called to be a seminary teacher. Oh, the best part was that they were going to pay me like $25 a week. I was of the mindset that I shouldn't be turning down callings, but I could not imagine why they would call me, a recent college grad at his first real job, with a little baby, to be a seminary teacher. I told him I would think about it. I went home and talked to my wife about it. I figured that it would cost me about four hours a day to do this. For me the calling would have been extremely stressful. My wife and I decided, that there was no way that this would work with our family situation. When I talked to the guy again, he asked me, "Are you going to serve the Lord or are you going to disappoint him?" Guilt trip.... I turned down the calling, gratefully.

I had an amazing meeting as SS pres with the primary pres and the bishop. The primary presidency had fasted and prayed about where to hold the sharing time portion of primary. They were concerned about it because we were the late ward and the kids would be extra fidgity late in the day. They all had received unanimous confirmation from the Holy Ghost that it should be in the chapel. Confidently she told the bishop that because the HG had directed them to have sharing time in the chapel, she wanted to work out the logistics for classrooms, etc. The bishop told her he had to think about it for a minute. He was quiet for a minute, then told her that the HG told him that wasn't correct. The PP started ranting about how his decision was a decision of a man and not inspired, blah, blah. He then went into defensive mode and started talking about how busy his law practice was (very relevant) as well as his calling as the bishop. She told him he was wrong, but if he wanted to decide something that was wrong based upon the wisdom of man, she would submit to his human decision. Then she got up and left. That was a very inspirational meeting.... As the crack in my TBM testimony grew larger and larger....
- - - - -
This sounds very much like what happened with our ward's YW Pres. a few years back, when I was a counselor in the bishopric. Her husband was getting an MBA in night school. He was also the ward mission leader, which took him away on other nights. Anyhow, YW Pres. brought her toddler son to YW with her, and he sat with the YW as they did whatever it is they do. When she had her second child, she asked not to be released, and she assured us that she could bring both of her kids to YW with her. During the bishopric discussion of her request, I said, "well, this whole thing about her bringing the boys to young womens raises an obvious question." The bishop shot back that her husband was in school and couldn't be expected to watch the kids while she did church stuff. She stayed in YW, and she brought the kids.
topic image
The Mormon Treadmill -- Female Style! Any Of This Sound Familiar Ladies?
Saturday, May 14, 2005, at 09:42 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
As a "Mother in Zion" in Mormonism, the church kept me so busy with demands on my time that I always felt like I had a wet suit on and someone was timing me -- shouting to go faster, faster, faster!!

Between the callings, (for me it was usually three or more and for a time it was seven!),one of the major ones for many years was conducting music in Sunday School, Sacrament and Primary and pitch hitting in Relief Society, and producing, writing, and directing Road Shows, besides teaching classes, Ward Bulletin editor for years...then of course, there were the pregnancies - (and miscarriages) the children; thank goodness they came one at a time!

As a woman I was taught to:
  • support the Priesthood (which meant getting the boys and men to their meetings properly dressed and on time)
  • in addition to taking care of the house:
  • doing the laundry,
  • ironing,
  • cleaning the house,
  • fighting the battle to get the children to help with chores,
  • shopping, (which included buying wheat, rice, powered milk, honey, peanut butter, jam and other items in bulk and attempting to keep a supply of food--never could manage a 1 year supply)....
  • sewing (I made quilts with the children's help, dresses for the girls, and for myself and many other items)
  • cooking three meals a day, mixing the milk with powered milk to make it go further,
  • grinding my own wheat,(the children loved cracked wheat cereal)
  • making whole wheat bread,
  • making my own yogurt,
  • making my own nine grain healthy cookies,
  • reading the scriptures,
  • preparing lessons, and music
  • doing genealogy,
  • writing in a journal,
  • singing in the choir,
  • doing Visiting Teaching,
  • going the temple at least once a month (finding baby sitters!)
  • making extra food to take to a member who was ill or for a funeral,
  • doing "crafts" to decorate my home, making personalized cards,
  • performing with my musical instrument, giving music lessons (for 25 years)
  • setting the proper tone in the home - that was drilled into me, that it was my responsibility to be in a correct righteous frame of mind,
  • family prayer morning and night, (Ok, we often could not get them all together for this one)
  • Family Home Evenings, (the kids hated this one), but
  • Family Council was a success,
  • getting everyone to the dentist and doctor regularly,
  • working in their required shots for school,
  • getting the homework done and supervised
  • teaching the children correct principles so they can govern themselves, (ya right!)
  • dealing with the children's "free agency" growing up, which meant putting out fires constantly with the schools and sometimes the law~!
  • eventually working part time and later for the Church,
  • supporting the children in their sports, music, and school events..and on and on and on....!
  • with very little time left get to know my non-member neighbors (every member a missionary!) or attend any non-Mormon event but it happened, all though in a very small scale.
That role of women in Mormonism leaves you feeling there is never a time when you get the message that you are OK.

If you are OK, you have to instill it in yourself and fight like hell to keep it!

Fortunately, I came from a long line of very independent people, and was a quick study and could take a very liberal path through Mormonism and teach that kind of independence to my children.

The Mormon Treadmill kept me running constantly, and sleep deprived for over 15 years. All I ever wanted for gifts was 10 nights of uninterrupted sleep!

Amazingly I never got depressed, I just could not work it into my schedule or do it RIGHT!

I always felt like I was being told to do things better, longer and faster and in different clothes!

There was the constant contradiction of "family first" but in actuality, the church was first and the only way to rationalize that was to say your family is the church so therefore, it all comes first.

I certainly learned a lot of valuable skills and somehow managed to keep my sense of humor - well, most of the time anyway.

Now, in retrospect, I am grateful for the Mormon Treadmill and all that I learned. I developed skills I did not know I had, gained self respect and self confidence even though it was assaulted at every turn if you did not fit in perfectly. I have my family because of Mormonism.

I know I am not unique in my experiences as a mother in Zion, as we used to say!

Most of you women can make similar lists.

I made this list for myself because I needed to remember the "good" stuff, and remind myself to have an attitude of gratitude so I do not get caught up in being a victim; bitter, or hurt, or hateful about my life in Mormonism. I have much to be thankful for. Much that enriched my life, Much I learned.

But, I know why I left. And that is very simple. It was the truth, which is always simple, although, it was scary, and very weird when I began my trek out of Mormonism.

I saw the red flags for years, the things that did not make sense, did not add up, and eventually, interestingly enough, it was some very outrageous events, and out of order priesthood men who finally got me to STAY HOME long enough to disconnect from the programming! I know that was not their intent, but that is what happened.

Then began the study and research and as soon as I realized that the core was rotten, Joseph Smith told a huge whopper, I started laughing! OH MY GOSH! That conniving little bugger! He was a real piece of work, plagiarizing everything he could get his hands on and claiming visions! What a hoot! And look what he started and Brigham Young took over! Amazing that people still join the church and stick to it. This is the funniest religion!

I had ditched the Holy Drawers-Joseph Jammies-regulation 24/7 skivvies earlier, now it was a matter of respecting my own thinking, my ability to be an independent thinker! Now I have a good laugh at the God of Regulation Skivvies!

No more silly rules, dogma, covenants (made on fraud and therefore not binding), commandments, scripture reading, prayer, lists of things to do to serve the Lord, etc. No wonder none of it worked! It was a fraud. When they talk about the fruit of the tree - well! Bingo! The fruit is rotten too!

Now I give back. I am passionate about FULL DISCLOSURE and informed choice and consent.

I have been away from day to day life as a Mormon for several years and nearly forgotten what that Mormon Treadmill was like, and I am grateful for forgetting !

Now,I chart my own course, plan my own day, use my time as I see fit, with no fear or guilt or regrets! I can look back and have a good laugh (and sometimes a good cry) and see that I did much the same things that religiously immersed other females did as mothers, and not feel alone.

Do I still think like a Mormon? Probably, sometimes, but it is less and less as each year passes. If I kept anything from my years as a Mormon, the adage to love one another still finds it's place at the top of my list of how to live my life.

I would be interested in how other women, now exMormons deal with the Mormon Treadmill and how they feel about it now?
topic image
Why Should I Clean Their Church?
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005, at 08:08 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
As of yet, I have not resigned, because I didn't feel that it was my problem; however, after a phone call this weekend I am more resolved on pursuing that route.

I have lived in this new area for two years, and maybe attended church once 2 years ago after being tracked down by the missionaries (I'm sure my parents sent them). My husband is Catholic--as is his family. I was raised Mormon but left the church in my college years (rather they left me, and I chose to let them go). Enough history.

We have received what I feel to be mild forms of harassment culminating to what transpired this past weekend. My inlaws were babysitting for my husband and me (at our house), when the church called insisting that we come clean their building. My inlaws wanted to know what church would be calling our house telling us to come clean it for them. With not a small amount of humiliation I was left to explain to them the new policy on cleaning as I understand it (since my 60-something year old parents do it on a regular basis--filling in for people who don't show up). I feel mortified that they would feel it was their right to call my house and tell my inlaws what I should be doing with my spare time. Are the members so lazy that they are counting on inactives to do their sh*t work for them? Even if I were an active member, I would not agree on that policy. Growing up, those jobs were given to people in dire needs of the extra income...and with this new policy, I feel it's taking money away from those who really need it just so the church can further build up its wealth. I can only hope that these people feel resentful enough for being expected to now do for free what they were once paid for.
topic image
The Dreaded Cannery Assignments
Thursday, Oct 13, 2005, at 09:24 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
I've been thinking about the cannery assignments. You know, the monthly or semi-monthly trips out to the cannery to spend a few hours canning and packaging food as a consecration of your time and effort to the Empi-- er... Kingdom.

You sit in Elders' Quorum or High Priests Group and get guilt-tripped into taking valuable vacation or even sick time to go in the middle of the day to can wheat. You then spend hours doing the work with the idea that you're doing something to help the needy.

Then you get back and are presented with a cannery purchase sheet. The Stake is encouraging everyone to stock up on their food storage, so you dutifully sign up for giant, heavy boxfuls of stuff, about 30% (generously speaking) of which you'll ever actually use before it spoils. You then cut a check for your canned loot that exceeds your weekly grocery tab.

Sitting back, you realize that you are paying the Church for canned goods that they are getting assembled, shipped, and distributed for free. Follow the profit, indeed.

Continuing in this vein, I passed by the ward bulletin board last Sunday during Sunday School and saw a sheet of paper with requests for missionaries printed by the Church. In it, I saw missionary listings for places like the Church Office Building, Church Publications, and so forth. Furthermore, the "missionary" positions were actually jobs that would normally command healthy salaries. I realized that not only is the Church getting people to volunteer for jobs they could get paid very good money to do (and, most likely, were once held by people pulling Church salaries), but these "missionaries" are actually paying several hundred dollars a month at least for the privilege... and without the benefit of OHSA or HPPA protections or health benefits that employers usually have to provide by law.

It makes me sick to my stomach. Moreover, it makes me realize that consecration, as defined by the Mormon Church, is a carte blanche license for the few to profit off of the sweat and labor of the many in the name of divinity.
topic image
The Church Consumed Every Day Of The Week
Monday, Oct 31, 2005, at 08:38 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
When I was raising children several years ago, before the three hour Sunday stretch, The church consumed every single day of the week (early 70's).

Monday was Family Home evening --We didn't have it so we did other things and felt guilty all evening

Tuesday was Relief Society in the morning. This took the entire morning.

Wednesday was mutual (I taught)(now called young women's)

Thursday the children went to Primary.

Friday we were obliged to spend the entire evening at our ward helping with the chocolate project or be to some activity, or scout project or activity

Saturday was either Stake Leadership or we continued on with the chocolate project. Or go out and work on the church farm.

Sunday was church in the morning and church at night.

Once a month, homemaking meeting was an all day affair

There was also Seminary every morning and we always heard how we should be scripture reading every morning.

I also usually had at least two church callings and in-between all that I was supposed to do visiting teaching and have visiting teachers come to my house so they could go back and report that my dishes weren't done or that I was still in my nighty at 3:00 in the afternoon.

It was exhausting. It exhausts me just writing about it.

Anyone else remember the good ole days?
topic image
It Seems That The Church Calls Very Rich And Successful Members To Be Stake Presidents
Wednesday, May 31, 2006, at 08:12 AM
Original Author(s): 100% Tithing Free
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
When I lived in the Rochester, New York area the stake president was CEO of Eastman Kodak. Our stake president in Denver, Colorado was a very weathly oil industrialist that loved to show off his $6 million home. Our other stake presidents in Boise, Idaho and Sandy, Utah were both successful medical proffessionals who made sevral hundred thousand a year.

What's interesting is the wards in these stakes were ran by some bishops who were practically starving. It's when I decided the bishop really wasn't a leadership position but a position the church would throw on any sucker who was willing to take the calling. I mean I saw a guy who just lost his job with five children made bishop. My dad who spent two years working in the Church Office Building as a volunteer missionary said he found out the church leaders don't even want to talk to bishops, it's the stake presidents who matter.

Now look at the new 70's they call. Most if not all are successful business men. I would say the lower tier of real church leadership is the stake president position and everybody below that is a nobody including the bishop. It's the stake presidents who are on the outer orbit of the inner circle of church power. They are mostly successful people who seem to like to have their egos stroked.

One trait of stake presidents I've noticed is they ask you what you do for a living and if it's an important well paid position, the warm up to you but if you are struggling they seem to blow you off. I remember when I first started my business the stake president didn't give me the time of day but 15 years later when I was making some good money, boy did I suddenly get treated different. Anyone who doesn't think money or position matters in the church has their head up you know where.

I think the church wants rich, successful leaders now. Why? You have to stroke the ego of rich people and give them a position of authority to make being in the church worth it. Make these people a Sunday school teacher and they are eventually going to bolt. So the church appeals to their narcasism. Many love their callings. Watch how much ass kissing the richest guy in the stake gets when he becomes Stake President. They guy is willing to donate a lot of money to the church just for the privelege of enjoying the power he holds over sevral thousand people.

The Mormon church really is nothing more than a inner club of narcomaniacs running masses of sheep. It's much like corporate America these days isn't it? Many are called but few are chosen is right.
topic image
Without Church Callings
Tuesday, Mar 17, 2009, at 08:36 AM
Original Author(s): Lost
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
I was wondering this Sunday what so many people in church would do if they didn't have their church callings.

Do members come to church to take the sacrament, attend meetings, learn about the gospel, and visit friends?

Well, not exactly.

Take the sacrament...Yes. But why? What covenants are they renewing? Who are they serving each week...god or themselves?

Attend meetings? Yes...infinite leadership meetings. Not their regular meetings. When is the last time you saw a member of the Bishopric in a Sunday School class? And when is the last time at a service project you actually saw a leader do any work? The last time we hard a yard cleanup for a sister in our ward, the leader spent the whole time talking to her and holding up his rake. He has set up the service project, so his work was done, you see.

Learning about the gospel? Well, no. The leaders are too busy administering it. Besides, they already know it all.

Visit friends? Well, no. Talking is now frowned upon, especially before and after sacrament.

So why are do people come to church? I think its because of their church callings. It is who they are. It defines them in the context of their church existance. It gives them something to do so they can say to themselves: "I worked hard this Sunday, so I'm know a little closer to making it to the Celestial Kingdom."

How many leaders have you seen would betruely happy as Sunday School teachers or primary workers? How often have you seen that ever happen? And if does, they are always "Bishop" or "President", right? But they will tell you from the pulpit these are the most important callings. Fine...why is it that you never see them doing these important callings??

Anyway, I would propose a test. There are no longer any church callings. The church hires a manager who simply collects tithing and sends it to Salt Lake and is responsible for building management. Of course this is ridiculous, but if it were possible...how many people do you suppose would still come to church?

It would at least stop the: Brother Johnson, 1st Counselor in the Sunday School Presidency, will now be our concluding speaker today. Brother Johnson is a bla bla bla.

Hmmmm. Nice to have dreams....

topic image
Why Do They Call It "Voluteer" When It Is An Assigned Duty?
Friday, Aug 6, 2010, at 07:59 AM
Original Author(s): Jod3:360
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
Do people volunteer to teach Primary?

No.

Do people volunteer to be Bishop?

No.

Do people volunteer to be Relief Society President?

No.

ScoutMaster, Sunday School Teacher, Elders Quorum Secretary?

Nope.

But every one of these people will recieve a "calling" which really an assigned position where they will work for free.

A calling in the truest sense is where you feel that you have a calling, a purpose, a desire to do a certain thing and you prepare to become that person.

In mormondom, if you feel prompted to do ministerial labor you may have to wait years before being 'called' into something like that. Nobody applies to become Bishop. It is true that some are truly called and luckily get assigned to a position where they really shine.

If you were to feel prompted to become a minister in another church, you train for it, go to school and get a degree and eventually a congregation. Or you can volunteer to serve in some capacity in the vocation of your choice until you are able to train for higher duties in that field.

So when people talk about volunteer labors in the church, it is really fulfilling an assigned role. And you can tell whether someone has a 'calling' or if they are fulfilling an assigned role.
topic image
The Bishop Has The Mantle Of Discernment
Wednesday, Aug 11, 2010, at 07:53 AM
Original Author(s): Jod3:360
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
The Bishop thought that assigning the new member to the Primary would be a good idea since he [according to him]had prayed for confirmation. The gentleman was soon released from Primary after several complaints about making girls sit in his lap.

Another Bishop said he was so happy to see the newlyweds and gave the wife a blessing of comfort and blessed her that her influence was good on the husband, and that they would go to the temple to become an eternal family. The hubby drained the bank account and disappeared.

The same Bishop was called by a grieving family to give a deathbed blessing to their loved one who was given only a few days to live after succumbing to a lengthy illness. He blessed the woman saying that she had led a good life and that there was nothing to fear, among other things. With tears in his eyes he shook hands with the family and left to make arrangements. Not long after the doctor arrived to say that they were going to begin Dialysis as an emergency procedure...three weeks later she was released from the hospital and lived another four years. (in GD class he openly took credit for giving her a blessing and voila here she is-- her Son in law had harsh words for him later)

When I was getting set apart as a councilor in the Bishopric, the SP had to be stopped and reminded that I was not yet a High Priest...without a vote of the conference and without the knowledge of any except us, I was ordained a HP and then set apart.

The new Bishop approached me after had been recently been released from the Bishopric, and said that he had submitted my name to the SP for a calling to be High Priest Group Leader, assuring me that they needed someone of my spiritual strength, and steadfastness. At that point it became necessary to tell my Bishop that I was struggling with my testimony and that it would have to be asssigned to someone else.

The same Bishop at a members funeral decided that it would be a good idea to spread the gospel by announcing that in order for the missionaries to come visit the people (mostly nonmembers) that they would be collecting names and addresses, and that they did, deeply offending many of the grieving family. Some went on to write to the Bishop stating their disgust at his use of their moment of weakness to further his church. Net gain- 0.

Why isn't the "father of the ward" any more inspired than us regular fathers?
topic image
What Does The Stake Public Affairs Specialist Do?
Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012, at 12:39 PM
Original Author(s): Idleswell
Topic: CALLINGS   -Link To MC Article-
A Stake (or Ward) Public Affairs Specialist is supposed to generate publicity for the Church. He or she should be trying to get announcements about the Church into local newspapers, on local radio, posters in the library, etc.

If the Public Affairs Specialist attempts to fulfill his or her calling, he or she soon learns that religious announcements are rarely accepted. Case closed. Even when a newspaper has a section for churches to publicize dinners and service projects, the religion editor will tell a Public Affairs Specialist that they "don't take announcements from cults."

A creative ward may attempt community outreach such as blood collection at the church allowing the Church to be part of the announcement. Unfortunately, the Church is so unknown in the Maritimes that they rarely spell the name of the Church correctly. And you know what they say about publicity: there is no such thing as bad publicity - just make sure they spell your name correctly.

In my last ward an editor of the lifestyles page for the largest newspaper in the province and an interviewer on a radio program broadcast on several cities were both very active LDS. Even then, the Church received no mention through major media.

The truth is: when a Public Affairs Specialist is called, the hope is that he or she won't be able to do anything. And they tend to fulfill their role very, very well.
 
mcimg
HOME
FAQ
CONTACT ME
332 TOPICS
THE EX-MORMON FORUMS
MORMON RESIGNATION
Google
Search The
Mormon Curtain





MormonCurtain

How to navigate:
  • Click the subject below to go directly to the article.
  • Click the blue arrow on the article to return to the top.
  • Right-Click and copy the "-Guid-" (the Link Location URL) for a direct link to the page and article.
Archived Blogs:
Is It Ok For Mormons To Not Accept Church Callings?
Here Are Some Short Stories From Mormons Who Did Not Accept Callings.
The Mormon Treadmill -- Female Style! Any Of This Sound Familiar Ladies?
Why Should I Clean Their Church?
The Dreaded Cannery Assignments
The Church Consumed Every Day Of The Week
It Seems That The Church Calls Very Rich And Successful Members To Be Stake Presidents
Without Church Callings
Why Do They Call It "Voluteer" When It Is An Assigned Duty?
The Bishop Has The Mantle Of Discernment
What Does The Stake Public Affairs Specialist Do?
5,717 Articles In 332 Topics
TopicImage TOPIC INDEX (332 Topics)
TopicImage AUTHOR INDEX

  · ADAM GOD DOCTRINE (4)
  · APOLOGISTS (53)
  · ARTICLES OF FAITH (1)
  · BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD (31)
  · BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD - PEOPLE (16)
  · BLACKS AND MORMONISM (12)
  · BLACKS AND THE PRIESTHOOD (11)
  · BLOOD ATONEMENT (4)
  · BOB BENNETT (1)
  · BOB MCCUE (144)
  · BONNEVILLE COMMUNICATIONS (2)
  · BOOK OF ABRAHAM (50)
  · BOOK OF MORMON (66)
  · BOOK OF MORMON EVIDENCES (18)
  · BOOK OF MORMON GEOGRAPHY (24)
  · BOOK OF MORMON WITNESSES (5)
  · BOOK REVIEW - ROUGH STONE ROLLING (28)
  · BOOKS - AUTHORS AND DESCRIPTIONS (12)
  · BOOKS - COMMENTS AND REVIEWS (44)
  · BOY SCOUTS (22)
  · BOYD K. PACKER (33)
  · BRIAN C. HALES (1)
  · BRIGHAM YOUNG (24)
  · BRIGHAM YOUNG UNIVERSITY (54)
  · BRUCE C. HAFEN (4)
  · BRUCE D. PORTER (1)
  · BRUCE R. MCCONKIE (10)
  · CALLINGS (11)
  · CATHOLIC CHURCH (5)
  · CHANGING DOCTRINE (12)
  · CHILDREN AND MORMONISM (48)
  · CHRIS BUTTARS (1)
  · CHURCH LEADERSHIP (3)
  · CHURCH PUBLISHED MAGAZINES (51)
  · CHURCH TEACHING MANUALS (10)
  · CHURCH VAULTS (4)
  · CITY CREEK CENTER (23)
  · CIVIL UNIONS (14)
  · CLEON SKOUSEN (3)
  · COGNITIVE DISSONANCE (2)
  · COMEDY (128)
  · CONCISE DICTIONARY OF MORMONISM (14)
  · D. MICHAEL QUINN (1)
  · D. TODD CHRISTOFFERSON (6)
  · DALLIN H. OAKS (101)
  · DANIEL C. PETERSON (88)
  · DANITES (4)
  · DAVID A. BEDNAR (23)
  · DAVID O. MCKAY (8)
  · DAVID R. STONE (1)
  · DAVID WHITMER (1)
  · DELBERT L. STAPLEY (1)
  · DESERET NEWS (3)
  · DIETER F. UCHTDORF (13)
  · DNA (23)
  · DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS (8)
  · DON JESSE (2)
  · ELAINE S. DALTON (5)
  · EMMA SMITH (5)
  · ENSIGN PEAK (1)
  · ERICH W. KOPISCHKE (1)
  · EX-MORMON FOUNDATION (33)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 1 (35)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 10 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 11 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 12 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 13 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 14 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 15 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 16 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 17 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 18 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 19 (26)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 2 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 20 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 21 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 22 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 23 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 24 (28)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 3 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 4 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 5 (23)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 6 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 7 (25)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 8 (24)
  · EX-MORMON OPINION - SECTION 9 (26)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 1 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 10 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 11 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 12 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 13 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 14 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 15 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 16 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 17 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 18 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 19 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 2 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 20 (24)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 21 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 22 (24)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 23 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 24 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 25 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 26 (61)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 3 (21)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 4 (22)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 5 (24)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 6 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 7 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 8 (25)
  · EX-MORMONISM SECTION 9 (26)
  · EXCOMMUNICATION AND COURTS OF LOVE (19)
  · EZRA TAFT BENSON (30)
  · FACIAL HAIR (6)
  · FAIR / MADD - APOLOGETICS (70)
  · FAITH PROMOTING RUMORS (11)
  · FARMS (30)
  · FIRST VISION (23)
  · FOOD STORAGE (3)
  · FUNDAMENTALIST LDS (17)
  · GENERAL AUTHORITIES (29)
  · GENERAL CONFERENCE (14)
  · GENERAL NEWS (5)
  · GEORGE P. LEE (1)
  · GORDON B. HINCKLEY (68)
  · GRANT PALMER (8)
  · GREGORY L. SMITH (9)
  · GUNNISON MASSACRE (1)
  · H. DAVID BURTON (2)
  · HAROLD B. LEE (1)
  · HATE MAIL I RECEIVE (23)
  · HAUNS MILL (2)
  · HBO BIG LOVE (12)
  · HEBER C. KIMBALL (4)
  · HELEN RADKEY (17)
  · HELLEN MAR KIMBALL (4)
  · HENRY B. EYRING (5)
  · HOLIDAYS (13)
  · HOME AND VISITING TEACHING (9)
  · HOWARD W. HUNTER (1)
  · HUGH NIBLEY (13)
  · HYMNS (7)
  · INTERVIEWS IN MORMONISM (18)
  · J REUBEN CLARK (1)
  · JAMES E. FAUST (7)
  · JEFF LINDSAY (6)
  · JEFFREY MELDRUM (1)
  · JEFFREY R. HOLLAND (32)
  · JEFFREY S. NIELSEN (11)
  · JOHN GEE (3)
  · JOHN L. LUND (3)
  · JOHN L. SORENSON (4)
  · JOHN TAYLOR (1)
  · JOSEPH B. WIRTHLIN (1)
  · JOSEPH F. SMITH (1)
  · JOSEPH FIELDING SMITH (8)
  · JOSEPH SITATI (1)
  · JOSEPH SMITH (101)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY (43)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - PROPHECY (8)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - SEER STONES (7)
  · JOSEPH SMITH - WORSHIP (13)
  · JUDAISM (3)
  · JULIE B. BECK (6)
  · KEITH B. MCMULLIN (1)
  · KERRY MUHLESTEIN (9)
  · KERRY SHIRTS (6)
  · KINDERHOOK PLATES (6)
  · KIRTLAND BANK (6)
  · KIRTLAND EGYPTIAN PAPERS (17)
  · L. TOM PERRY (5)
  · LAMANITE PLACEMENT PROGRAM (3)
  · LAMANITES (36)
  · LANCE B. WICKMAN (1)
  · LARRY ECHO HAWK (1)
  · LDS CHURCH (19)
  · LDS CHURCH OFFICE BUILDING (9)
  · LDS OFFICIAL ESSAYS (22)
  · LDS SOCIAL SERVICES (3)
  · LGBT - AND MORMONISM (44)
  · LORENZO SNOW (1)
  · LOUIS C. MIDGLEY (6)
  · LYNN A. MICKELSEN (2)
  · LYNN G. ROBBINS (1)
  · M. RUSSELL BALLARD (13)
  · MARK E. PETERSON (7)
  · MARK HOFFMAN (12)
  · MARLIN K. JENSEN (3)
  · MARRIOTT (2)
  · MARTIN HARRIS (5)
  · MASONS (16)
  · MELCHIZEDEK/AARONIC PRIESTHOOD (9)
  · MERRILL J. BATEMAN (3)
  · MICHAEL D. WILLIAMS (1)
  · MICHAEL OTTERSON (1)
  · MICHAEL R. ASH (26)
  · MITT ROMNEY (71)
  · MORE GOOD FOUNDATION (4)
  · MORMON CELEBRITIES (14)
  · MORMON CHURCH HISTORY (8)
  · MORMON CHURCH PR (13)
  · MORMON CHURCH PROPAGANDA (5)
  · MORMON CLASSES (1)
  · MORMON DOCTRINE (35)
  · MORMON FUNERALS (12)
  · MORMON GARMENTS (20)
  · MORMON HANDCARTS (12)
  · MORMON INTERPRETER (4)
  · MORMON MARRIAGE EXCLUSIONS (1)
  · MORMON MEMBERSHIP (38)
  · MORMON MISSIONARIES (142)
  · MORMON MONEY (73)
  · MORMON NEWSROOM (5)
  · MORMON POLITICAL ISSUES (5)
  · MORMON RACISM (18)
  · MORMON TEMPLE CEREMONIES (38)
  · MORMON TEMPLE CHANGES (15)
  · MORMON TEMPLES (116)
  · MORMON VISITOR CENTERS (10)
  · MORMON WARDS AND STAKE CENTERS (1)
  · MORMONTHINK (13)
  · MOUNTAIN MEADOWS MASSACRE (21)
  · MURPHY TRANSCRIPT (1)
  · NATALIE R. COLLINS (11)
  · NAUVOO (3)
  · NAUVOO EXPOSITOR (2)
  · NEAL A. MAXWELL (1)
  · NEAL A. MAXWELL INSTITUTE (1)
  · NEIL L. ANDERSEN - SECTION 1 (3)
  · NEW ORDER MORMON (8)
  · OBEDIENCE - PAY, PRAY, OBEY (15)
  · OBJECT LESSONS (15)
  · OLIVER COWDREY (6)
  · ORRIN HATCH (10)
  · PARLEY P. PRATT (11)
  · PATRIARCHAL BLESSING (5)
  · PAUL H. DUNN (5)
  · PBS DOCUMENTARY THE MORMONS (20)
  · PERSECUTION (9)
  · PIONEER DAY (3)
  · PLAN OF SALVATION (5)
  · POLYGAMY (60)
  · PRIESTHOOD BLESSINGS (1)
  · PRIESTHOOD EXECUTIVE MEETING (0)
  · PRIMARY (1)
  · PROCLAMATIONS (1)
  · PROPOSITION 8 (21)
  · PROPOSITION 8 COMMENTS (11)
  · QUENTIN L. COOK (11)
  · RELIEF SOCIETY (14)
  · RESIGNATION PROCESS (31)
  · RICHARD E. TURLEY, JR. (6)
  · RICHARD G. HINCKLEY (2)
  · RICHARD G. SCOTT (7)
  · RICHARD LYMAN BUSHMAN (11)
  · ROBERT D. HALES (5)
  · ROBERT L. MILLET (7)
  · RODNEY L. MELDRUM (15)
  · ROYAL SKOUSEN (2)
  · RUNTU'S RINCON (78)
  · RUSSELL M. NELSON (14)
  · SACRAMENT MEETING (11)
  · SALT LAKE TRIBUNE (1)
  · SCOTT D. WHITING (1)
  · SCOTT GORDON (5)
  · SEMINARY (5)
  · SERVICE AND CHARITY (24)
  · SHERI L. DEW (3)
  · SHIELDS RESEARCH - MORMON APOLOGETICS (4)
  · SIDNEY RIGDON (7)
  · SIMON SOUTHERTON (34)
  · SPAULDING MANUSCRIPT (8)
  · SPENCER W. KIMBALL (12)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 1 (18)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 10 (17)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 11 (15)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 12 (19)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 13 (21)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 14 (17)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 15 (12)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 2 (21)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 3 (18)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 4 (25)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 5 (22)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 6 (19)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 7 (15)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 8 (13)
  · STEVE BENSON - SECTION 9 (19)
  · STORIES (1)
  · SUNSTONE FOUNDATION (2)
  · SURVEILLANCE (SCMC) (12)
  · TAD R. CALLISTER (3)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 1 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 2 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 3 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 4 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 5 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 6 (25)
  · TAL BACHMAN - SECTION 7 (9)
  · TALKS - SECTION 1 (1)
  · TEMPLE WEDDINGS (6)
  · TEMPLES - NAMES (1)
  · TERRYL GIVENS (1)
  · THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE (1)
  · THE SINGLE WARDS (5)
  · THE WORLD TABLE (3)
  · THOMAS PHILLIPS (18)
  · THOMAS S. MONSON (33)
  · TIME (4)
  · TITHING (63)
  · UGO PEREGO (5)
  · UK COURTS (7)
  · UNNANOUNCED, UNINVITED AND UNWELCOME (36)
  · UTAH LIGHTHOUSE MINISTRY (3)
  · VALERIE HUDSON (3)
  · VAN HALE (16)
  · VAUGHN J. FEATHERSTONE (1)
  · VIDEOS (30)
  · WARD CLEANING (4)
  · WARREN SNOW (1)
  · WELFARE (0)
  · WENDY L. WATSON (7)
  · WHITE AND DELIGHTSOME (11)
  · WILFORD WOODRUFF (6)
  · WILLIAM HAMBLIN (11)
  · WILLIAM LAW (1)
  · WILLIAM SCHRYVER (5)
  · WILLIAM WINES PHELPS (3)
  · WOMEN AND MORMONISM (86)
  · WORD OF WISDOM (7)
  · WORLD CONGRESS OF FAMILIES (1)
Donate to help keep the MormonCurtain and Mormon Resignation websites up and running!

Note: Dontations are done via my AvoBase, LLC. PayPal Business Account.
Copyright And Info
Articles posted here are © by their respective owners when designated.

Website © 2005-2016

Compiled With: Caligra 1.119

HOSTED BY