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2008 Exmormon Foundation Conference Oct. 17 - 19, 2008
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The time is flying! And time to remind everyone again about the Exmormon Foundation coming up October
17-19, 2008.
Please join us for our annual weekend of education, enlightenment, personal stories, and mingling with a group of interesting and brave people who are exploring life after Mormonism.
Embassy Suites Hotel, Salt Lake City, UT Click here for details: http://www.exmormonfoundation.org/200....
Amazing line up of activities and speakers for 2008, including Steven Hassan - mental health counselor and expert on cults!
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GENERAL CONFERENCE
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The Mormon Church holds what they call "General Conference" twice per year, the first weekend in April and first weekend in October. These conferences are held in the massive conference center in downtown Salt Lake City. Here Mormon General Authorities give talks that are broadcast on TV, Radio and Satellite.
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Here are the odds of certain events occuring during General Conference
1 in 1 chance Hinckley will say 'Marvelous' or 'Beloved'
1 in 2 chance Monson will say 'the bard said' or some reference to 'the bard'
1 in 4 chance Eyring will get teary eyed
1 in 1 chance a new GA who speaks will kiss the prophets butt during his talk
1 in 1 odds a prayer will go over 5 minutes
1 in 2 odds whoever speaks from the General Relief Society Presidency will talk about following the Brethern better.
1 in 4 chance the Primary Speaker will talk at a 3rd grade Level
1 in 5 a comment will be made at the priesthood session about how the young men are 'a chosen generation'
1 in 6 chance Scotts talk will be about sex somehow.
1 in 10 to the 10th power polygamy will be mentioned along with Joseph Smith
1 in 10 chance something about avoiding television shows like 'Big Love' will be mentioned.
1 in 10 to the 19th power the members will be told to start packing to move back to Missouri
1 in 10 to 2nd power a black person will give a talk.
Any other odds making?
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Hinckley -
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"Racial strife still lifts its ugly head . . . even right here among us,"
Hard to believe when it is taught on page after page of your "sacred" scriptures.
Monson -
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It is a human tendency to want the things which will give us prominence and prestige.
Like becoming the next prophet?
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We live in a time when borrowing is easy," Monson said. "The day of reckoning will come if we have continually lived beyond our means."
Interesting how the church asks for 10% + of a persons income, tells them to have big families, that the mother should stay at home and not work, that all their financial problems will work out if they just stay active and pay their tithing, build multimillion dollar palaces of worship using only the finest material that members are told represents celestial glory which they are to strive for, and then they wonder why so many mormons are sinking in debt and declaring bankruptcy?
Julie B. Beck (Even the women have to use their middle initials?)
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Her mother's faith would "lead her to answers about medical treatment," Beck told her audience.
Is this really the model we want parents in Zion to follow? Forget consulting medical doctors, just pray about it and God will tell you what medicines you need to heal your child!
Hale -
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"Every time we go out, every decision we make, we are either choosing to move in [the devil's] direction or in the direction of our Savior," Hales said. "But the adversary must depart if we tell him to depart. He cannot influence us unless we allow him to do so, and he knows that."
See elder no-mo if you just keep telling Satan to depart you would not have those evil homosexual urges!
Did anyone hear Nelson's talk? Some one on RfM claimed he said polygamy was either a mistake or did not happen? He apparently quoted a scripture from section 49 about marriage and a man and a woman becoming one flesh but I haven't seen any specific quoute where he called polygamy a mistake. Perhaps the poster was simply reacting to the contradiction between section 49 and 132.
| After Watching Hinckley And Faust's Talks, There Is No Doubt About Where They Stand In Regards To The BOM And 1st Vision
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Hinckley: "I know that the BOM was written by ancient prophets."
Hinckley: "The 1st vision was a true occurance. The father and the son appeared to Joseph Smith on a bright day. There is no doubt about it."
Faust: "I have a witness of the truthfulness of the gospel. I've had it since I was young."
Faust: "We know that Christ appreared to the Nephites in ancient America..."
Faust: "Joseph Smith translated the Book of Moses. He also translated the Book of Abraham from ancient scrolls purchased (from an artifacts dealer)."
No doubt about it, they stated exactly what they wanted to. The BOM is not an 'inspired work of fiction'. It is literal history. The Book of Abraham's translation is from the scrolls.
How's Daniel C. Petersucker going to spin this one?
| I couldn't watch any of the others.
I watched Packer and realized that he really hates himself. Now that I own a business and have lots of practice reading people, this is my conclusion about Boyd.
Bednar does not believe himself to be an apostle. His talk was given because he asked Hinckley why he had not yet received his special witness. He looked sick and empty. I'm sure his advice from Hinckley was to go to conference and teach about the spirit so that he could have the spirit.
I'm convinced that Bednar is really struggling. I've never seen a conference talk that looked so difficult to deliver. It was like every word had to be chisled from him. His material was so basic, he had clearly been told that "a testimony is found in the bearing of it."
| James Faust gives an emotional talk on forgiveness in General Conference 4/07. His second example is Mac Christensen, whose son Steve was killed by Mark Hoffman.
Now, this event was not 177 years ago. It's only 22 years ago. Faust fails to mention that Hinckley and Oaks, (who right on cue, was the next speaker) were indirectly responsible for Steve's death. It would have been more appropriate for Hinckley and Oaks to come to the podium together and ask for forgiveness for their involvement. No, they did not conspire with Hoffman. But their lust for power and control contributed to this horrible event.
Is Faust so unaware of the truth? I guess the best defense is a good offense.
| Ive only read summaries and reports of this weekends general conference 4/07, but once again, the world is left with nothing but re-hashed pabulum for the converted. Give the sheep another dose of, Gee, aint it great to be us?
In his current effort to instruct the planet on all things spiritual, he spoke on the nature of God. From the SL Trib
During the morning session, Hinckley said he found the Nicene Creed, a statement from 325 A.D. about the relationship between God the Father and Jesus Christ that most Christians accept, to be confusing. The LDS Church relies instead on the personal experience of founder Joseph Smith, who claimed to have a vision of God and Jesus in 1820. He knelt in their presence; he heard their voices; and he responded, Hinckley said. Each was a distinct personality.
Well, Gordito, at least the Nicene Creed has shown some consistency over the centuries. In less than 20 years, Joseph Smith could not keep his story straight about his meeting and chatting with deity from one version to the next. Three versions of who he talked to that day. Do you teach that?
Another thing
if this was such a perfect witness, why did Smith a couple of years later, have to pray to know whether or not God existed? Good thing he was rewarded with a visit from a sunshiney white Jewish Indian zombie who forgave Smith (once again) of his sins and told him a golden book was on its way. Do you teach that?
The myths continue.
Hinckley regurgitates folktale and the flock drools, thinking they are getting something of worth.
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