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Joseph Smith and his polygamous and polyandrous affairs.
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Joseph Smith Polygamy
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005, at 10:00 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Deconstructor's Site http://www.i4m.com/think/intro/ has a great section on Joseph Smith and his polygamous and polyandrous affairs. Today, the LDS Church continues to supress the fact that Joseph Smith had anything to do with Polygamy. In fact, the LDS Church's new site Joseph Smith The Prophet does not contain even one piece pointing at polygamy or polyandry.

This selection is from Deconstructor's site and all links herein go to his site.

"And if Joseph Smith have ten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore he is justified for they are given unto him to multiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be glorified." - Doctrine and Covenants 132:62-63

Did Joseph Smith Have Sex With His Wives?
Official church records show Smith had dozens of wives, but did he have sex with them?

Sharing Your Spouse with the Prophet
Church leaders and historians explain why Joseph Smith married other men's wives

Joseph Smith Letter Justifies Polygamy
Official Joseph Smith letter to a nineteen year-old girl provides his justification for polygamy

A Heavenly Messenger Answers Joseph Smith's Prayers
Why did an angel with a sword repeatedly threaten Joseph Smith's life?

William Clayton Diary and Joseph Smith Polygamy
A revealing insiders experience with Joseph Smith's secret polygamy

LDS Church Polygamy and the Law
Why Joseph Smith and others lied about their plural mariages

What Mormon Women Really Felt About Polygamy
Faithful LDS member and historian documents the female perspective on polygamy

No Surplus of Women in Early Utah
Official census records and LDS Church authorities dispell popular excuse for polygamy

Joseph Smith Marrying Teen Girls
Records show it was not normal to marry 14 year-old girls in Joseph Smith's time

Mormon Polygamy not about Widows or Orphans
Historian Randy Jordan debunks myth that Mormon polygamy was about helping widows
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18 Wives Of Joseph Smith Not Listed On The Church's Online Family History Record. Why Not?
Saturday, Aug 6, 2005, at 08:24 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
I reviewed the church’s online genealogy record for Joseph Smith (ref. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Searc...) and the list of Smith's wives on http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/hom... (which includes marriage dates and references).

The following 18 women are not listed in the church’s record as Smith’s wives:

Agnes Coolbrith
Almera Johnson
Delcena Johnson
Eliza Maria Partridge
Elizabeth Davis Durfee
Elvira Cowles Holmes
Emily Dow Partridge
Fanny Alger
Flora Ann Woodworth
Hanna Ells
Louisa Beaman
Lucinda Morgan Harris
Maria Lawrence
Marinda Johnson Hyde
Olive Frost
Patty Bartlett Sessions
Ruth Vose Sayers
Sarah Kingsley Cleveland

I'm wondering why not.
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Why I Think Joseph Smith Had Sex With His Wives
Friday, Aug 26, 2005, at 11:31 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
There is more evidence Joseph Smith had sex with his wives than exists he saw God and Jesus.

Here's why I think Joseph Smith had sex with his wives:

1. The only two recorded Joseph Smith revelations on polygamy are commandments to have children.

2. Making babies with polygamous wives is the only reason "The Lord" gives for polygamy.

3. The Book of Mormon says the only reason the Lord would permit polygamy would be to have children.

4. Joseph Smith's own son tried to exonerate his father from the charge of having sex with his plural wives. After speaking to many of them personally, he accepted that most of the relationships were sexual.

5. Over a dozen faithful LDS women testified that their marriages to Joseph Smith included sex.

6. Close relatives of Smith's wives testified that he spent the night in the same bed with them.

7. Everyone Joseph Smith taught his law of Celestial Marriage to understood it meant having sex, and did so.

8. Other cult leaders (Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc..) claim to receive similar "revelations" to DandC 132 that justify them having sex with multiple women (and eventually teen girls).

In comparison, the First Vision story has little of the above evidence to support it. So why do Mormons believe the First Vision but refuse to accept the fact that Joseph Smith obeyed The Lord's "commandment" in DandC 132 and had sex with his wives?

Get the facts here: http://www.i4m.com/think/polygamy/

Listen to an ardent Mormon insist publicly that Joseph Smith's polygamy had nothing to do with sexual access to women:

http://www.i4m.com/think/van_hale2.ht...

Is his argument credible?
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Information On Joseph Smith Marrying Pregnant Wive's Of Other Men
Wednesday, Oct 19, 2005, at 08:09 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
I post this for any that may be visiting because of reading about Joseph Smith's plural marriages in Newsweek.

You will notice that Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner was still married to Adam Lightner (married 11 Aug 1835) when she married Joseph Smith (17 Jan 1842).

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Searc...

Mary Lightner was also seven months pregnant with Adam’s child when she married Joseph Smith. George Algernon Lightner was born 22 Mar 1842, two months after Mary married Joseph Smith (17 Jan 1842). She also went on to have seven more children with Adam Lightner after marrying Joseph Smith.

Florentine Mattheas Lightner 23 Mar 1844
John Horace Gilbert Lightner 9 Feb 1847
Elizabeth Lightner 3 Apr 1849
Mary Rollins Lightner 9 Apr 1850
Algernon Sidney Lightner 25 Mar 1853
Charles Washington Lightner 17 Mar 1857
Adam Lightner 28 Oct 1861

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Searc...

Zina Huntington was also pregnant:

She would have been about 6-months pregnant with Henry Bailey Jacobs son.

Marriage(s):
Spouse: Joseph SMITH (AFN: 9KGL-W2) Family
Marriage: 27 Oct 1841
Nauvoo, Hancock, Il

1.Sex Name
M Zebulon William JACOBS (AFN:234B-S6) Pedigree

Born: 2 Jan 1842 Place: Nauvoo, Hancok, Il
Died: 22 Sep 1914 Place: Salt Lake City, S-Lk, Ut
Buried: Place: Salt Lake City, Cem. S-Lk City, Ut

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Searc...

She also married Brigham Young while still married to Jacobs and eight months pregnant with Henry Chariton Jacobs.

Spouse: Brigham YOUNG (AFN: 3ZD8-KC) Family
Marriage: 2 Feb 1846
Nauvoo, Hancock, Il

2. Sex Name
M Henry Chariton JACOBS (AFN:1875-4N) Pedigree

Born: 22 Mar 1846 Place: Chariton, Lucas, Iowa, Iowa
Died: 14 Oct 1915 Place: Ogden, Weber, Ut

If you look up Brigham Young you will find the following.

-Morris Whitesides dies one month after Brigham Young marries his wife Margaret Pierce.

-Diana Severance Chase marries William Montgomery Shaw while still married to Brigham Young.

-Brigham Young marries Harriet Emeline Barney while she is still married to William Henry Harrison Sagers.

-Mary Jane Bigelow is married to four other men while still married to Brigham Young.

-Brigham Young marries Ann Eliza Webb while she is still married to James Leech Dee.

-Brigham Young marries Lydia Farnsworth while she is still married to Elijah Mayhew.

-Mary Ann Turley marries John James Cook while still married to Brigham Young.

-Elizabeth Fairchild marries at least two other men while married to Brigham Young.

-Eliza Babcock marries Brigham Young while still married to Dominicus Carter.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Searc...
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Joseph Smith Also Used Other Methods To Cover Polygamy Pregnancies
Monday, Dec 12, 2005, at 07:52 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
In addition to marrying already-pregnant women, there is some evidence that abortion was practiced in Nauvoo...

LDS Elder Ebenezer Robinson testified that Hyrum Smith "instructed me in Nov or Dec 1843 to make a selection of some young woman and he would seal her to me, and I should take her home," he recalled, "and if she should have an offspring give out word that she had a husband, an Elder, who had gone on a foreign mission." Possibly referring to a secluded birthplace, or conceivably to abortion, Robinson spoke of "a place appointed in Iowa, 12 or 18 miles from Nauvoo to send female victims to his polygamous births."
- Ebenezer Robinson to Jason W. Briggs, Jan. 28, 1880, LDS archives. On December 29, 1873, Ebenezer and Angeline Robinson signed an affidavit saying that Hyrum Smith had come to their house in the fall of 1843 to teach them the doctrine of polygamy.

Hyrum Smith also documented Nauvoo abortions, and interestingly enough, blamed it on a doctor and close associate of Joseph Smith. Hyrum testified that Dr. Bennett was propositioning women in a similar fashion to Joseph Smith. "[Dr. Bennett] endeavored to seduce them, and accomplished his designs by saying it was right; that it was one of the mysteries of God, which was to be revealed when the people was strong enough in faith to bear such mysteries–that it was perfectly right to have illicit intercourse with females, providing no one knew it but themselves, vehemently trying them from day to day, to yield to his passions, bringing witnesses of his own clan to testify that there were such revelations and such commandments, and that they were of God; also stating that he would be responsible for their sins, if there were any, and that he would give them medicine to produce abortions, provided they should become pregnant."
- Affidavit of Hyrum Smith. Official History of the Church, Vol. 5, p.71

Pretend Marriages in Case of Pregnancy
According to church historian Andrew Jenson, Sarah Ann Whitney became the seventh plural wife of Joseph Smith, and the story of his marriage to her illustrates another strategy. She disguised her relationship to the prophet by pretending to marry Joseph Corodon Kingsbury on April 29, 1843. In his autobiography Kingsbury wrote: "I according to Pres. Joseph Smith and Council and others agreed to stand by Sarah Ann Whitney as though I was supposed to be her husband and [participated in] a pretended marriage for the purpose of . . . Bringing about the purposes of God in these last days . . ."
- Elder Joseph Kingsbury, "History of Joseph Kingsbury Written by His Own Hand," page 5, Utah State Historical Society

If Not Sex, What Was Joseph Smith Doing?

Most of Smith's plural wives boarded with other families, whom he visited periodically. His secretary, William Clayton, recorded one such visit to young Almera Johnson on May 16, 1843: "Prest. Joseph and I went to B[enjamin] F. Johnsons to sleep." Johnson himself later noted that on this visit Smith stayed with Almera "as man and wife" and "occupied the same room and bed with my sister, that the previous month he had occupied with the daughter of the late Bishop Partridge as his wife." Almera Johnson also confirmed her secret marriage to Joseph Smith: "I lived with the prophet Joseph as his wife and he visited me at the home of my brother Benjamin F."

While in hiding, Joseph Smith wrote a revealing letter which he addressed to her parents, Newel and Elizabeth Whitney, inviting them to bring their daughter to visit him "just back of Brother Hyrums farm." He advised Brother Whitney to "come a little a head and knock at the south East corner of the house at the window." He assured them, especially Sarah Ann, that "it is the will of God that you should comfort me now." He stressed the need for care "to find out when Emma comes," but "when she is not here, there is the most perfect saftey." The prophet warned them to "burn this letter as soon as you read it" and "keep all locked up in your breasts." In closing he admonished, "I think Emma won't come to night if she dont, dont fail to come tonight."
- http://www.xmission.com/%7Eresearch/family/strange.htm

Joseph Smith Promised to Cover for Polgamy Pregnancies

Joseph Smith taught the "Law of Celestial Marriage" to his close friend and secretary, William Clayton. When the pregnancy of William Clayton's first plural wife threatened to expose them, the prophet Joseph Smith advised Clayton to "just keep her at home and brook it and if they raise trouble about it and bring you before me I will give you an awful scourging and probably cut you off from the church and then I will baptize you and set you ahead as good as ever."
- William Clayton journal, Oct. 19, 1843.

Read more here:

http://www.i4m.com/think/joseph-smith-polygamy.htm
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Links To The Church's Online Geneaology Records For Joseph Smith Showing His Plural Wives, Including 14-Year Old Helen Mar Kimball. Why Is Fannie Alger Listed In The 2nd Record, But Not The 1st?
Wednesday, Dec 14, 2005, at 11:05 AM
Original Author(s): Freeatlast
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
I confronted my TBM mother in October with the fact that JS married a 14-year old when he was 37 (as the record via the first link shows). She responded by saying that I should not limit myself to only "anti-Mormon" sources of info. I replied that I didn't think that the church's online family history record for Smith was "anti-Mormon". Not surprisingly, she did not ask me to send her the link.

The second link is interesting because it shows Fannie Alger as Smith's first plural wife (you have to scroll down the record to find the data about his marriage to Emma), but the first record doesn't. Most Mormons are clueless about who Fannie was or how Smith came to know her ("know" in the Biblical sense - nudge, nudge, wink, wink, ya know, ya know).

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Searc...

Note the following:

Mary Elizabeth Rollins married Adam Lightner on 11 Aug 1835.
Their son, George Algernon Lightner was born on 22 Mar 1842.
Adam Lightner died on 30 Aug 1885.
Joseph Smith married Mary Elizabeth Rollins on 17 Jan 1842, when she was about seven months pregnant (was Adam Lightner the father, or Joseph Smith?).

Zina Diantha Huntington married Henry Bailey Jacobs on 7 Mar 1841.
Henry Bailey Jacobs died on 1 Aug 1886.
Joseph Smith married Zina Diantha Huntington on 27 Oct 1841, about seven and a half months after she married Henry.

Prescendia Lathrop Huntington married Norman Buell on 6 Jan 1828.
There is no online record of Norman Buell’s death.
Joseph Smith married Prescendia Lathrop Huntington on 11 Dec 1841.

Joseph Smith married Helen Mar Kimball in May 1843. He was 37 and she was 14.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Searc...

BTW, I've taken and saved digital screenshots of these records, so even if the church decides to get rid of them because they rock the faith of too many members (particularly LDS women), it won't much difference. You might want to do the same for your records.
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Sex For Salvation - One Of Joseph Smith's Greatest Gospel Doctrines
Friday, Dec 23, 2005, at 11:48 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Of all the gospel doctines Joseph Smith established, none received this much attention from God. For God sent an angel to Joseph Smith over a dozen times to make sure he taught and practiced it.

This doctrine had the most saving power over any ordinance, because it guaranteed the salvation of an entire family for only one person's obedience to it.

That's right - Joseph Smith taught that only one person in a family needed to obey this doctrine in order to save their entire family. But if they rejected the doctrine, then their whole family would be damned.

That's exactly the offer the Prophet Joseph Smith gave to fourteen year-old Helen Mar Kimball.

Helen wrote:

"Having a great desire to be connected with the Prophet, Joseph, he (my father) offered me to him; this I afterwards learned from the Prophet's own mouth."

"My father had but one Ewe Lamb, but willingly laid her upon the altar: how cruel this seemed to my mother whose heartstrings were already stretched unil they were ready to snap asunder, for she had already taken Sarah Noon to wife and she thought she had made sufficient sacrifice but the Lord required more."
- Helen Mar Whitney Journal, Helen Mar Autobiography, Womans Exponent, 1880 and recently reprinted in A Woman's view.

In fact, Joseph Smith gave Helen only 24 hours to decide on whether or not to marry him. Of this, Helen wrote:
"[my father] left me to reflect upon it for the next twenty four hours. ... I was sceptical - one minute believed, then doubted. I thought of the love and tenderness that he felt for his only daughter, and I knew that he would not cast me off, and this was the only convincing proof That I had of its being right."
The next morning, Joseph Smith finally appeared himself to explain the "law of Celestial Marriage" and claim his teen bride. In her memoir, Helen wrote, "After which he said to me, 'if you take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father's household and all of your kindred.' This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward."

Helen also writes about her mother's reaction to all of this:
"None but God and his angels could see my mother's bleeding heart - when Joseph asked her if she was willing, she replied 'If Helen is willing I have nothing more to say."

"She had witnessed the sufferings of others, who were older and who better understood the step they were taking, and to see her child, who had yet seen her fifteenth summer, following the same thorny path, in her mind she saw the misery which was as sure to come as the sun was to rise and set; but it was hidden from me."
Helen thought her marriage to Joseph Smith was only dynastic. But to her surprise, it was more. Helen confided to a close friend in Nauvoo: "I would never have been sealed to Joseph had I known it was anything more than ceremony. I was young, and they deceived me, by saying the salvation of our whole family depended on it." ("Mormon Polygamy: A History by LDS member Richard S. Van Wagoner, p. 53.)

What would Mormons do today if the Church still practiced this doctrine? What if a Bishop or Stake President could extend salvation to an entire family by taking one of their teen daughters?

Why can't Mormons today recognize the moral depravity in Joseph Smith's actions towards his followers?

Did angels really force Joseph Smith into behaving like this?

See:
http://www.i4m.com/think/history/angel_sword.htm
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Would You Give Your Sister To The Prophet? This Man Gave Two Sisters To Joseph Smith!
Tuesday, Dec 27, 2005, at 07:53 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
TBM's shouldn't shy away from a bona-fide testimony of Joseph Smith as a Prophet of God.

Here's a faithful testimony of a man who was so convinced Joseph Smith was a prophet, that he helped Joseph Smith take two of his sisters as secret brides.

BENJAMIN F. JOHNSON was a faithful Latter-Day Saint until the day he died. He had been a close friend and private secretary and body guard to Joseph Smith. He was also one of the original pioneers who entered the Salt Lake Valley on July 24, 1847 with Brigham Young. He later served as a church patriarch.

In a testimony, he wrote:

The Prophet, in early spring of 1843, had come to Ramus to teach me plural marriage, and to ask my other sisters to be his wives, an account of which I have heretofore given by sworn statement but will here repeat as it occurred.

It was Sunday morning, April 3rd or 4th, 1843, that the Prophet was at my home in Ramus, and after breakfast he proposed a stroll together, and taking his arm, our walk led toward a swail, surrounded by trees and tall brush and near the forest line not far from my house.

Through the swail ran a small spring brook, across which a tree was fallen and was clean of its bark. On this we sat down and the Prophet proceeded at once to open to me the subject of plural and eternal marriage and he said that years ago in Kirtland the Lord had revealed to him the ancient order of plural marriage, and the necessity for its practice, and did command him then to take another wife, and that among his first thoughts was to come to my mother for some of her daughters. And as he was again required of the Lord to take more wives, he had come now to ask me for my sister Almera.

His words astonished me and almost took my breath. I sat for a time amazed and finally, almost ready to burst with emotion, I looked him straight in the face and said: "Brother Joseph, this is something I did not expect, and I do not understand it. You know whether it is right, I do not. I want to do just as you tell me, and I will try, but if I ever should know that you do this to dishonor and debauch my sister, I will kill you as sure as the Lord lives."

And while his eyes did not move from mine, he said with a smile, in a soft tone: "But Benjamin you will never know that, but you will know the principle in time, and will greatly rejoice in what it will bring to you."

"But how," I asked, "Can I teach my sister what I myself do not understand, or show her what I do not myself see?" "But you will see and understand it," he said, "And when you open your mouth to talk to your sister, light will come to you and your mouth will be full and your tongue loose, and I will today preach a sermon to you that none but you will understand."

Both of these promises were more than fulfilled. The text of his sermon was our use of the "one, five and ten talents," and as God had now commanded plural marriage, and was exaltation and dominion of the saints depended upon the number of their righteous posterity, from him who was then but with one talent, it would be taken and given him that had ten, which item of doctrine seems now to be somewhat differently constructed.

But my thought and wish is to write of things just as they occurred, and I now bear an earnest testimony that his other prediction was more than fulfilled, for when with great hesitation and stammering I called my sister to a private audience, and stood before her shaking with fear, just so soon as I found power to open my mouth, it was filled, for the light of the Lord shone upon my understanding, and the subject that had seemed so dark now appeared of all subjects pertaining to our gospel the most lucid and plain; and so both my sister and myself were converted together, and never again did I need evidence or argument to sustain that high and holy principle.

And within a few days of this period my sister [Almera] accompanied me to Nauvoo, where at our sister Delcena's, we soon met the Prophet with his brother Hyrum and Wm. Clayton, as his private secretary, who always accompanied him.

Brother Hyrum at once took me in hand, apparently in fear I was not fully converted, and this was the manner of his talk to me: "Now Benjamin, you must not be afraid of this new doctrine, for it is all right. You know Brother Hyrum don't get carried away by worldly things, and he fought this principle until the Lord showed him it was true. I know that Joseph was commanded to take more wives, and he waited until an angel with a drawn sword stood before him and declared that if he longer delayed fulfilling that command he would slay him." This was the manner of Brother Hyrum's teaching to me, which I then did not need, as I was fully converted.

Meanwhile, the Prophet, with Louisa Beeman and my sister Delcena, had it agreeable arranged with Sister Almera, and after a little instruction she stood by the Prophet's side and was sealed to him as a wife, by Brother Clayton; after which the Prophet asked me to take my sister to occupy number "10" in his Mansion home during her stay in the city.

But as I could not long be absent from my home and business, we soon returned to Ramus, where on the 15th of May, some three weeks later, the Prophet again came and at my house occupied the same room and bed with my sister, that the month previous he had occupied with the daughter of the late Bishop Partridge, as his wife.

And at this time [when I was 26 years-old] Joseph Smith sealed to me my first wife for eternity, and gave to me my first plural wife, [17 year-old] Mary Ann Hale, an orphan girl raised by my mother then living with us, who is still with me, and is probably the only wife still living with the man to whom she was given by the Prophet.

At the marriage of Sister Almera to the Prophet, there was still our youngest sister, for whom he manifest partiality, and would gladly have married, also, but she being young and partially promised to my first wife's brother, although reluctantly, the matter by him was dropped.

On learning from the Prophet that even in Kirtland "the Lord had required him to take plural wives, and that he had then thought to ask for some of my sisters" the past with its conditions and influences began more fully to unfold to my mind, the causes that must, at least in part, have led to the great apostasy and disruption in Kirtland.

Without a doubt in my mind, [16 year-old] Fanny Alger was, at Kirtland, the Prophet's first plural wife, in which, by right of his calling, he was justified of the Lord (see DandC 132:59-60); while Oliver Cowdery, J. Carter, W. Parish, or others were not justified of the Lord either in their criticisms upon the doings of the Prophet, or in their becoming a "law unto themselves," through which they lost the light of their calling and were left in darkness.

Fanny A., when asked by her brother and others, even after the Prophet's death, regarding her relations to him, replied: "That is all a matter of our own, and I have nothing to communicate." Her parents died in Utah, true to the church. And to my knowledge, was by President Kimball in the temple at St. George introduced as "Brother of the Prophet Joseph's first plural wife."

The marriage of my eldest sister [Delcena] to the Prophet was before my return to Nauvoo, and it being tacitly admitted, I asked no questions.
- Elder Benjamin F. Johnson Letter to George S. Gibbs, 1903

Doesn't this member's faithfulness to the Prophet deserve honor by members today?
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To Those Who Wonder If Joseph Had Sex With Other Men's Wives
Friday, Feb 10, 2006, at 10:22 AM
Original Author(s): Noggin
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
I see FAIR has belched up the excuses that maintain that though Smith married many women, some of whom were already married, he never had sex with them. Seems the drones are asking the pesky type questions again over there... The apologetic response is nothing more than a large club to knock senseless those who dared to ask.

Brigham Young, Heber C Kimball and others were taught the polygamy concept by Joseph Smith. All who were taught the plural wifery system of marriage had sex with their wives. This is not debated any more. Joseph Smith, through "god" in revelations, sanctioned sexual relations in polygamy.

NOW. Read these verses from Section 132 of Doctrine and Covenants to see how Smith used the verbage to justify having sex with other men's wives (also used to stifle the guilt of the preyed upon women, no doubt... shhh it is okay to have sex with me even though you are married! God says so right... here...):
41 And as ye have asked concerning adultery, verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man receiveth a wife in the new and everlasting covenant, and if she be with another man, [Noggin explains: that is if a man marries a woman but she is married already to another man]and I have not appointed unto her by the holy anointing, she hath committed adultery and shall be destroyed. 42 If she be not in the new and everlasting covenant, and she be with another man, she has committed adultery.
As I have explained before, the use of the word "NOT" is the key. Careful observation reveals that "god" has another set of parameters whereby marrying another man's wife is not going to be considered adulterey for that woman. The condition that Smith has god set forth is the "Holy Annointing". The Holy Annointing could be the secret quorum of the 50 that Joseph instigated or could be just the endowment which, back then, was only presented to men and women who wanted to enter into a top secret polygamous marriage. Only the elite were allowed at first.

The endowment was ONLY to be given for the express purpose of binding the couple up into secrecy that they would never divulge the secret of plural wifery they were entering into.

Summary

Verse 42 also says that "NOT" word again. Do you see that if this same woman IS in the New and Everlasting covenant (plural marriage) and IS simultaneously with another man she will not be committing adulterey???

These two verses are nothing more that Smith pupeteering and ventriloquisting Jesus Christ! Manipulating the women of his day to believe that sex outside of monogamy was perfectly fine. Men can have sex with many women... and here in the fine print women can have sex with more than one man!

Just plain old repulsive. Tums, mylanta... no, a barf bag is needed to stomach it all.

Apologists: "Yay! Polygamy (and by inference, polyandry)is such a holy institution! I cannot wait for God to re reveal it so that we can have the true fullness of the gospel here on earth again!"

What are they thinking?

wretching noises
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Joseph Smith – Rotation Is The Name Of The Game
Monday, Sep 11, 2006, at 07:33 AM
Original Author(s): Grey Matter
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Finally, Johnson, “almost ready to burst with emotion,” looked his friend in the eye and said, “Brother Joseph This is Something I did not Expect and do not understand it – You know whether it is Right. I do not. I want to do just as you tell me and I will try. But if I ever Should know that you do this to Dishonor and debauch my Sister I will kill you as Shure as the Lord lives.”

Johnson explained why he granted Joseph’s request. “I know that Joseph was Command to take more wives and he waited until an angel with a Drawn Sword Stood before him and declared that if he no longer delayed fulfilling that Command he would Slay him.”

Joseph married Almira Johnson in the late summer. Johnson recorded that “the prophet Came and at my house occupied the Same Room and bed with my Sister [Almira] that the month previous he had occupied with the Daughter of the Late Bishop Partridge as his wife.”

Source: p. 146, Mormon Enigma, Second Edition

The pure and holy order of marriage?

Yes, of course it is.
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Take My Joseph Smith Quiz For TBMs Who Ask Me Why I Don't Believe
Monday, Oct 30, 2006, at 06:42 AM
Original Author(s): Btgr
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
You say “I know Joseph Smith Jr. was a prophet of God” as testimony to the truthfulness of Mormonism. Take the following quiz to find out how much you really know about him.

Joseph Smith Jr. 1. How many women did Joseph Smith marry while he was alive besides Emma? A: thirty-two.

2. How many of these women were older than him? A: five

3. How many of these women were in his peer group of 30-40 years of age? A: eight

4. How many of these women were 21-29 years of age when he married them? A: nine

5. How many were less than 20 years of age when he married them? A: eleven

6. How many were already married to other men when he married them? A: five

7. How many of these women filed affidavits stating their marriage to Joseph Smith included sexual intercourse? A: thirteen

8. How old was the youngest girl that he married? A: fourteen

9. What was her name? A: Helen Mar Kimball

10. Her birthday? A: August 28th, 1828

11. The date of her marriage to him? A: May 1843

12. His age on that date? A: thirty-eight

13. Would you let your fourteen year old daughter marry a thirty-eight year old man?

14. What kind of thirty-eight year old man would want to marry a 14 year old girl?

15. Number of references to his wives other than Emma on the JosephSmith.net website sponsored by the LDS Church? A: zero

16. Why zero?

Sources:
FamilySearch.org
Kirtland Temple legal proceedings
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Joseph Smith - Was He A Sexual Predator? - A Giveaway Clue
Monday, Oct 30, 2006, at 06:45 AM
Original Author(s): Grey Matter
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Joseph Smith - Was he a sexual predator? - A giveaway clue

In a recent conversation with my church-devoted mother, I talked about Joseph Smith’s extra-marital sexual relationships. I talked about his grooming of the 12 year-old Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner, and also his so-called marriages to the 14 year-old Helen Mar Kimball and to the 14 or 15 year-old Nancy Winchester, and his affairs with other men’s wives. I may also have mentioned his abuse of his adopted daughters.
“Mormons believe that Joseph asked the Lord why plural wives were acceptable in the day of Abrham, Isaac, and Jacob but not in his day. …several of Joseph’s contemporaries would state that he had received a revelation approving plural marriage in 1831.”
Source: p. 65, Mormon Enigma, 2nd Edition

Here is one such example:
“In 1869 Orson Pratt said, “[Joseph] has enquired of the Lord [if] the principle of taking more wives than one is a true principle, but the time had not yet come for it to be practiced.”
Source: p. 65, Mormon Enigma, 2nd Edition

As I grew up in the church, I had heard this mentioned a number of times. But the penny never really dropped, until after my exit.

Think about it, what normal, married or unmarried man, would ever conceive a question, such as the one Joseph is said to have asked God? Would such a thought ever enter into the head or into the heart of a normal, healthy man?

I don’t think so.

The evidence is quite clear. Joseph was dysfunctional. He was addicted to sex, and nothing in life mattered more to him that his multiple sexual partners. He had a particular appetite for teenage girls. Ministerial abuse was par for the course. Taking advantage of girls and women, unmarried or married, was what he was most skilled at.

In order to carry off his predatory plans, he had to convince, inveigle and entangle others as well. The devil likes company, and this sexually deviant devil was no exception. He couldn’t be the odd one out.

How could he ensnare others?

Simple. A new revelation from the Mormon god would do the trick. Revelations. Thank goodness for the gullible. They always swallowed Joseph’s so-called revelations, hook, line and sinker.

A revelation was put together, “…near Jackson County, Missouri, on July 17, 1831…”

It said:
“For it is my will, that in time, ye should take unto you wives of the Lamanites and Nephites [Indians]” [Single girls or married ladies, who cares?] “that their posterity may become white, delightsome and just, for even now their females are more virtuous than the gentiles.”
William W. Phelps, who was Joe’s secretary and who copied the revelation, said, “I asked brother Joseph privately, how ‘we,’ that were mentioned in the revelation could take wives of the ‘natives’ as we were all married men? He replied instantly, ‘In the same manner that Abraham took Hagar and Keturah; that Jacob took Rachel, Bilhah and Zilpah; by revelation – the saints of the Lord are always directed by” [so-called] “revelation.”

Source: p. 65, Mormon Enigma, 2nd Edition

The problem is that there doesn’t seem to be a single instance in the Bible, where we find polygamy being sanctioned or directed by God.

http://www.thercg.org/articles/ttap.h...

Joseph’s Lie about God giving the thumbs up to biblical or any other polygamy only works on the ignorant.

Anyway, my main purpose is just to point out that the very fact that Joseph asks the question is “the principle of taking more wives than one is a true principle” is a complete giveaway clue.

Only a depraved person would ask such a question. Only a degenerate person would invents a set of so-called revelations in order to pretend that God had given him the go-ahead to lead the vile and abusing lifestyle that Joseph Smith led.

I think Joseph was extremely cunning. Predators are. They can groom and prepare over long periods of time, and execute all manner of tactics in order to practice their craft. In the end, they strike. And the abuse is severely damaging. Perhaps even fatal.

Joseph’s legacy to America is polygamy and sexual abuse. It mattered more to him than anything else. He reluctantly gave his life for it.

"Lock up your daughters. The mormons are in town". It's not really that funny, is it, when you consider the roots of mormonism.

Cult devoted members can praise him all they like, but Joe gets no praise from me. He was one of the lowest life forms to exist on our planet.
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Consider The Sad Story Of Early Mormon Convert, Henry Jacobs, And How Polygamy Affected His Life
Monday, Oct 30, 2006, at 07:12 AM
Original Author(s): X-Man
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
I entered this thread onto the board about a year ago but thought it time to put it on again for those who may not be aware of this story.

I will bet that there are very few faithful members of the Mormon Church today that are familiar with the story of Henry Jacobs and how the “new and everlasting covenant” of plural marriage introduced by founding Mormon prophet Joseph Smith affected this good and faithful early Mormon convert and priesthood holder. Here is a brief summary of the true story of this man’s life:

- Baptized into the Mormon Church in 1832 and endured the hardships of the saints in Kirtland and Missouri.

- Ordained a Seventy, a missionary calling, on Jan. 19, 1839 then served a short mission starting in May that same year. Served many missions for the Church and was described as a staunch dedicated Mormon and an eloquent preacher.

- Met 19 year old Zina D Huntington in early Nauvoo in 1839 while she was living for a time with her family at the home of Joseph Smith and his wife, Emma. They took a liking to each other and began courting that same year.

- Sometime during the midst of Henry and Zina’s courting, Joseph Smith taught Zina the principal of plural marriage and proposed to her. Despite Zina’s reverence for the Mormon prophet, she declined JS’s proposal and put him off at that time and continued to court Henry. (1840) JS continued to press his suit with Zina at the same time she was courting Henry. In 1841, Zina made her choice and decided to marry Henry.

- On March 7, 1841, Henry and Zina were married. Joseph Smith had agreed to marry them but on the date of the marriage, he failed to show up for the ceremony and so they turned to John C. Bennett (Mayor of Nauvoo and high Church leader at the time) who performed the ceremony.

- Even right after the marriage, Joseph Smith revealed to Zina and Henry that the Lord had made it known to him that Zina was to be his celestial wife and that God had commanded that JS should marry Zina. Zina, however, continued to put off the prophet with his suit of her. In Oct of 1841, Zina received a written message from Joseph Smith that an angel from God had appeared to him with a drawn sword and told Joseph that he would lose “his position and his life” if he did not establish polygamy and marry Zina. Thus, Zina, after sincere prayer, finally acquiesced to marry the prophet Joseph Smith on October 27th, 1841, despite the fact that she was 7 months pregnant with Henry Jacob’s child. JS allowed Zina (as with all his other wives who were married to other men) to continue to live and cohabit with her first husband, Henry. Thus Henry lost an eternal companion in Zina to Joseph Smith but at least he could live with her and their children in this earthly life. They ended up having two children (sons) together.

- During 1842 to 1844, Henry is sent on several short missions by Joseph Smith. Joseph is killed by a mob on June 27th, 1844. It now appears to Henry that he will be able to have Zina to himself at least for the remainder of their earthly life.

- Sometime after JS’s death, Brigham Young approached Zina (as he did with many other of JS’s widows) and says it is his responsibility to his fallen prophet and leader to take on JS’s wives and to be sealed to them for “time” (not eternity). Thus Brigham Young was sealed to Zina for time in September of 1844. Henry went along with this Church leaders council and probably thought this marriage by BY only a formality, it is assumed, as he and Zina continued to live together and even had another child on the way by the time the saints were forced out of Nauvoo by mobs in Feb. of 1846. As the persecution against the Mormons mounted in Nauvoo toward the end of 1845 the saints prepared to leave for the “wilderness” and the temple was just completed at the time, Henry and Zina received their temple endowments together on Jan 2, 1846. A month later, Zina (now 25 years old) and 7 months pregnant with Henry’s 2nd child is married in the temple to Joseph Smith for “eternity” and to Brigham Young (standing in proxy forJS) for “time” as Henry stands as a witness. Thus now Henry is married to Zina for “time” as also is Brigham Young but at least Henry is still being allowed to live with Zina.

- Henry and Zina leave Nauvoo and their home on Feb 9th, 1846 and in the bitter cold head across the frozen Mississippi river and towards the long journey to Winter Quarters, Iowa. Zina bares their 2nd child along the way in the wagon with Henry nearby. On May 22nd, though Henry was halfway across Iowa, driving a covered wagon for his wife and 2 sons, one newly born, though danger and privatation, at this difficult time, of all times, he was suddenly sent away on a mission to England by order of Brigham Young. He faithfully and with obedience, followed his Church leaders and left for England along with Zina’s brother, Oliver. Zina was then moved in with Brigham Young's other wives and cared for.

- Henry completes an honorable and very successful mission to England. On Aug 12th, 1847, Henry and Oliver arrive in New York City as they are returning from their mission to England. At this time, Henry gets a letter from Zina telling him that their marriage is over and she will now be living with Brigham Young as a plural wife from then on.

There is much more to this story as those are just some of the highlights, but I will mention just a few more things. Despite all that happened to Henry, he remained faithful to the Church. He never lost his love nor longing to be with his sweet Zina and their two sons. When he got to SLC in Utah he was later sent by Brigham Young to California to help with needs there. He was later excommunicated (BY, again ordering this) for sending letters to Zina telling her how much he longed to be with her and his family while he was serving in California. He repented and was later rebaptized into the Church. He lived in California for many years before being brought back to Utah by his now grown sons (from his marriage to Zina) in 1880. He died at age 69 in SLC in 1886. He did have 3 or 4 other marriages along the way but they were never happy. He remained a faithful member of the Church up to his death.
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God's Top Priority: Sex For Joseph Smith
Friday, Dec 29, 2006, at 07:51 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
According to Joseph Smith, God kept sending an angel with a sword to command him to secretly marry more women. This angelic visitor appeared and literally threatened Joseph Smith's life on at least a half-dozen occasions.

At least that is what he told the women. (Remember the scene from Blazing Saddles where the Sheriff threatens himself with a gun?)

See: http://www.i4m.com/think/history/ange...

The Prophet's repeated testimony regarding this visiting angel is more consistent that his stories about the First Vision.

Mormons should recognize an important message from the Prophet Joseph Smith's experiences with the Angel.

IT CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES GOD'S PRIORITIES.

What a shame God didn't send an angel with a sword to straighten Smith out on these other occasions:
  • No angel tried to stop him ordaining blacks to the priesthood
  • No angel corrected him for writing contradictory versions of the First Vision story
  • No angel coerced him into not ordering the destruction of the Nauvoo expositor press
  • No angel tried to stop him from ordering the Danites to kill Governor Boggs
  • No angel corrected him for repeatedly saying that Native Americans are Lamanites.
  • No angel warned him to stop having sex with his adopted daughters
  • No angel warned him not to claim he had accurately translated Egyptian
  • No angel came to tell him what happened to the lost 116 pages
  • No angel stopped him from committing bank fraud
  • No angel stopped him from trying to sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon
  • No angel told him to take naked touching out of the endowment ceremony (that didn't happen until Jan 2005)
  • No angel tried to stop him from using a gun at Carthage to kill two men, thus preventing him from dying like an innocent martyr
  • No angel chastised him from declaring he was greater than Jesus Christ
Nope. Angelic messengers were complete no-shows, except for when Smith supposedly didn't want to seduce teenagers and other men's wives, and then WALA, A MIRACLE! The Lord sends His angel to force Smith into secret adultery!

What kind of God do Mormons worship?
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Mormonism's Greatest Revelation: Sex For Salvation
Thursday, Jan 4, 2007, at 07:10 AM
Original Author(s): Deconstructor
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Of all the gospel doctrines Joseph Smith established, none received this much attention from the Lord. For the Lord sent his angels to Joseph Smith over a dozen times to make sure he taught and practiced it.

This vital doctrine had the most saving power over any gospel ordinance, because it guaranteed the salvation of an entire family for only one person's obedience to it!

That's right - the Prophet Joseph Smith taught that only one person in a family needed to obey this gospel doctrine in order to save their entire family. But if they rejected the doctrine, then he warned that the Lord would destroy the whole family.

That's exactly the proposal the Prophet Joseph Smith gave to fourteen year-old Helen Mar Kimball.

Helen wrote:

"Having a great desire to be connected with the Prophet, Joseph, he (my father) offered me to him; this I afterwards learned from the Prophet's own mouth."

"My father had but one Ewe Lamb, but willingly laid her upon the altar: how cruel this seemed to my mother whose heartstrings were already stretched until they were ready to snap asunder, for she had already taken Sarah Noon to wife and she thought she had made sufficient sacrifice but the Lord required more." - Helen Mar Whitney Journal, Helen Mar Autobiography, Womans Exponent, 1880 and recently reprinted in A Woman's view.

In fact, the Prophet Joseph Smith gave Helen only 24 hours to decide on whether or not to marry him. Of this, Helen wrote:

"[my father] left me to reflect upon it for the next twenty four hours. ... I was skeptical - one minute believed, then doubted. I thought of the love and tenderness that he felt for his only daughter, and I knew that he would not cast me off, and this was the only convincing proof That I had of its being right."

The next morning, 37 year-old Joseph Smith finally came himself to the family to explain the "law of Celestial Marriage" and claim his teen bride.

In her memoir, Helen wrote, "After which he said to me, 'if you take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father's household and all of your kindred.' This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward."

Helen also writes about her mother's reaction to all of this:

"None but God and his angels could see my mother's bleeding heart - when Joseph asked her if she was willing, she replied 'If Helen is willing I have nothing more to say."

"She had witnessed the sufferings of others, who were older and who better understood the step they were taking, and to see her child, who had yet seen her fifteenth summer, following the same thorny path, in her mind she saw the misery which was as sure to come as the sun was to rise and set; but it was hidden from me."

Helen thought her marriage to Joseph Smith was only dynastic. But to her surprise, it was more. Helen confided to a close friend in Nauvoo:

"I would never have been sealed to Joseph had I known it was anything more than ceremony. I was young, and they deceived me, by saying the salvation of our whole family depended on it." - Polygamy: A History, by LDS member Richard S. Van Wagoner, p. 53.

Smith married fourteen year-old Helen just one month after dictating the revelation of DandC Section 132. In it, the Lord declares that Smith can take even "ten virgins" in order to "multiply and replenish the earth" and he is not committing adultery. (See DandC 132:62-63)

What would Mormons do today if the Church still practiced this doctrine? What if a Bishop or Stake President could extend salvation to an entire family by taking one of their teen daughters as a bride?

Why can't Mormons today recognize the moral depravity in Joseph Smith's actions towards his followers?

Did angels really force Joseph Smith into behaving like this?

Church history says yes: http://www.i4m.com/think/history/ange...
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Joseph Smith, Menses, Pedophilia, Etc
Friday, Jan 19, 2007, at 08:55 AM
Original Author(s): Tlc
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
In our efforts to sort through the wasteland that is Mormon history, (fact vs. fiction) it's worthwhile, at least to me, to have some context within which to make our judgments.

A poster on the other thread derided the notion that the age of sexual maturity among women has changed or is still changing. The statistics are very clear on this however: The age of menarche is dropping in virtually all areas of the world. More on that below.

The other claim being disputed is that Joseph Smith was a pedophile. While it's easy to throw that word around in light of today's problems with child abusing priests in the catholic clergy, the fact remains that pedophilia is defined as: "The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children."

Furthermore, the pathology of pedophilia is understood to be an attraction or activity that is limited to prepubescent children. It's been well-established that true pedophiles lose interest almost immediately when a boy or girl exhibits the first signs of sexual maturity.

I don't have access to my library of links on this subject from this computer but a quick Googling of the word pedophilia will take you to the professional community's definitions. They are very clear as to what does and what doesn't constitute pedophilia.

By today's definitions, when it comes to the pathology of pedophilia, Joseph Smith would probably not be considered a true pedophile. That doesn't mean however, that he wasn't a lecherous scumbag who would stop at nothing to bed any young woman who captured his fancy.

More on sexual maturity among women.

As closely as I can tell from investigating the median age of menarche (first menses) in Joseph Smith's time, it is possible that one or two of the girls he married and/or had relations with might not have been sexually mature. All of the research I've been able to find, (and it's not all linked here) indicates that the average age of menarche in the mid 1800s was 17.

What that might tell us about a girl who was 14 or 15 back then is hard to determine because of the nature of averages. In any event, it does make it clear that Joseph Smith was treading a very fine fine when it came to the sexual maturity of the girls he courted and/or married.

There is a lot of research in this arena because of the alarming shift in menarchal age from the 1800s to present day where the median onset of menarche has now dropped to age 12.

2. In 1840, the average young woman in Europe and the United States menstruated for the first time at the age of 17; her modern counterpart reaches the age of menstruation at about 12. Well known to biological anthropologists as the "secular trend," this crash in the age of sexual maturity has proceeded at the rate of four months per decade, and, in most populations, continues.

http://www.svdltd.com/sells/cpa/artic...

Boys and girls now experience puberty at younger ages than previous generations. In general, girls enter puberty between ages 8 and 13 and reach menarche (first menstruation) several years later, while boys enter puberty between ages 9 and 14 (436, 529). The reasons for earlier menarche in girls are not well understood. Most of the change is attributed to better health and nutrition (160, 185, 529). In North America age at menarche decreased by three to four months each decade after 1850; in 1988 the median age at menarche was 12.5 years among US girls (160, 529). In some developing countries age at menarche appears to be decreasing even faster. For example, in Kenya average age at menarche fell from 14.4 in the late 1970s to 12.9 in the 1980s (185).

http://www.jhuccp.org/pr/j41/j41chap1...

So perhaps more for my own benefit than anyone else's, it helps to understand the context from within which we assess the lecherous scumbag known as Joseph Smith. We don't know if he had sex with prepubescent children, therefore we don't know if he was truly a pedophile. We don't know if the teenaged girls he married and/or had sex with were sexually mature or not.

But regardless of whether they were sexually mature or not, something in us is sickened by the thoughts of them being coerced into any kind of relationship with this lecher who was pretending to use god as his motivator.

Joseph Smith was not the first, nor will he be the last, to prey upon young girls for sexual gratification. And that in no way justifies his actions. But in aiming for accuracy in trying to describe Joseph Smith, there are a lot of words other than pedophile that do the job more saliently and succinctly.

Lecherous scumbag keeps coming to mind for some reason.

What one of us as fathers here today, would hesitate for a second to deck a sumbitch like J.S. if he so much as glanced in any of our daughter's directions? I know that my response would be visceral and swift.

Makes you wonder what kind of men Smith had around him that they would so willingly hand over their young daughters to him. Therein lies the true pathology of mormonism.
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Joseph Smith, His Attempts To Seduce Sarah Pratt, The Manipulative Dr. Bennett, And Abortions Reportedly Done For Smith By The Doctor
Monday, Jan 22, 2007, at 06:56 AM
Original Author(s): Freeatlast
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
JOSEPH ATTEMPTS TO SEDUCE SARAH PRATT, ORSON PRATT'S WIFE (Joseph Smith the First Mormon 1977 by Donna Hill p.297)

By the spring of 1842, disquieting rumors had already been in circulation in Nauvoo for several months about the flamboyant Dr. [John Cook] Bennett who had risen so suddenly to a spectacular place among the Saints. Besides acting as first counsellor to the prophet while Sydney Rigdon was ill, Bennett had become mayor of Nauvoo, chancellor of the university and president of the Nauvoo Agricultural and Manufacturing Association. He held the rank of major general in the Nauvoo Legion and directed its organization and training. After only eighteen months in Nauvoo he had become second in power to no one but the prophet himself...

Bennett also claimed to have had the confidence of Sarah Pratt. Like many missionaries' wives who were left without support, Sarah had done cooking, sewing and washing to keep herself and her children, and Bennett had taken meals with her. According to Bennett, Sarah had confided to him that Joseph had told her the Lord had given her to him as one of his spiritual wives but she had replied that she did not believe in such revelations, and would never break her marriage covenant with Orson [Pratt]. Bennett said that Joseph warned her not to repeat what had happened, but Sarah told her husband when he came home. Orson faced Joseph, but Joseph denied everything and tried to blacken Sarah's reputation.

Considering Bennett's character and his vendetta against the prophet, it is not likely that his story about Joseph and Sarah is entirely reliable. However, it seems that something occurred between Joseph and Sarah that made her indignant, since some years later she told an interviewer that he had made propositions to her that enraged her and that she had refused the aid she was supposed to receive from the church while Orson was on his mission. (Wilhelm Wyl, Mormon Portraits, Salt Lake City, 1886, p.61). According to Joseph III, however, Sarah denied to him that his father had ever said an improper word to her. "Memoirs of President Joseph Smith," The Saints Herald, January 22, 1935, p.109 as quoted by Brodie, p.316 n.)

In any event, the story Orson heard from Sarah or Bennett or both apparently so upset him that for a time he was irrational.

Joseph records that on August 29, 1842, Orson disappeared from Nauvoo and that most of the city turned out in search of him. Orson was found on the riverbank after an attempt to destroy himself. (History of the Church, V, 138.) [My friend noted: Knowing the reputation of Bennett at this point, it is hardly likely that Orson would have tried to kill himself over Bennett's words. It seems more likely that it came directly from his wife.]

For a while Sarah and Orson withdrew from the church, but later, according to his brother Parley's great-granddaughter, Parley persuaded Orson that it was better to overlook the matter and keep harmony in the church. (Reva Stanley, A Biography of Parley P. Pratt; the Archer of Paradise, Caldwell, Idaho: Caxton Printers Ltd. 1937), p.158.)

Orson never wanted to lose the priesthood or his standing as a member of the twelve. On January 20, 1843, the Quorum of the Twelve met at the home of Brigham Young in Orson's presence, to reconsider his case. On that same day Orson and Sarah were rebaptized in the river and Orson was restored as an apostle. (Minutes of the Council of Twelve, in box labelled "High Council Meetings etc., Conference and Public Meetings," HDC.)

Orson afterward wrote to a cousin, "J.C. Bennett has published lies concerning myself and my family and the people with which I am connected. His book I have read with the greatest disgust No candid honest man can or will believe it." (Parley P. Pratt to "Dear Cousin" [John Van Cott in New York], May 7, 1843. Orson Pratt papers, HDC. Orson's comments were attached to Parley's letter.)

My friend continues:

You will see that this also covers a fair amount of information about John Bennett. I mentioned in an email to you before that he was an interesting part of Joseph's circumstances in Nauvoo, a rather unsavoury character that became one of Joseph's entourage for, as far as I can tell, two reasons: 1) He was a master Mason, and had the connections that got Joseph into Masonry, which Joseph later used to flesh out the temple ceremony doctrines; 2) He had the political savvy to help Joseph fulfill his political aspirations.

There is a book about his life now, called The Saintly Scoundrel: The Life and Times of Dr. John Cook Bennett. The Amazon website for it is here:

http://www.amazon.com/Saintly-Scoundr...

He was an integral part of Joseph's life in Nauvoo and, I believe, fit right in with Joseph Smith's real character. He is critical to any real understanding of the Nauvoo period. You may also recall that, in a previous email you sent me, it referred to Dr. Bennett doing abortions:

http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/18...

"A doctor in Nauvoo, and once a close associate of Joseph Smith, was accused by Hyrum Smith of practicing abortions. Hyrum testified that Dr. Bennett was propositioning women in a similar fashion to Joseph Smith. "[Dr. Bennett] endeavoured to seduce them, and accomplished his designs by saying it was right; that it was one of the mysteries of God, which was to be revealed when the people was strong enough in faith to bear such mysteries–that it was perfectly right to have illicit intercourse with females, providing no one knew it but themselves, vehemently trying them from day to day, to yield to his passions, bringing witnesses of his own clan to testify that there were such revelations and such commandments, and that they were of God; also stating that he would be responsible for their sins, if there were any, and that he would give them medicine to produce abortions, provided they should become pregnant." - Affidavit of Hyrum Smith. Official History of the Church, Vol. 5, p.71

Now, this paints Bennett as a scoundrel, according to Hyrum. But Hyrum doesn't go quite far enough. Bennett was also performing abortions for Joseph:

Testimony of Sarah Pratt, wife of Apostle Orson Pratt (same link)

http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/18...

"One day they came both, Joseph and Bennett, on horseback to my house. Bennett dismounted, Joseph remained outside. Bennett wanted me to return to him a book I had borrowed from him. It was a so-called doctor-book. I had a rapidly growing little family and wanted to inform myself about certain matters in regard to babies, etc., -- this explains my borrowing that book. While giving Bennett his book, I observed that he held something in the left sleeve of his coat. Bennett smiled and said: 'Oh, a little job for Joseph; one of his women is in trouble.' Saying this. he took the thing out of his left sleeve. It was a pretty long instrument of a kind I had never seen before. It seemed to be of steel and was crooked at one end. I heard afterwards that the operation had been performed; that the woman was very sick, and that Joseph was very much afraid that she might die, but she recovered.

"Bennett was the most intimate friend of Joseph for a time. He boarded with the prophet. He told me once that Joseph had been talking with him about his troubles with Emma, his wife. 'He asked me,' said Bennett, smilingly, 'what he should do to get out of the trouble ?' I said, 'This is very simple. GET A REVELATION that polygamy is right, and all your troubles will be at an end."

My friend continues:

The Pratt family was interesting for another reason- Parley P. Pratt, Orson's older brother. My father recently read an LDS book about Pratt's life. When I asked him about how Parley died, he said he was shot by an assassin.

The actual truth is a little more complex than the church book, which doesn't want members to know the truth. On a mission, Parley seduced a woman into becoming one of his plural wives. He later fled, and the husband tracked him down and shot him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parley_P...

Parley P. Pratt

Parley Parker Pratt (12 April 1807–13 May 1857) (commonly known as Parley P. Pratt) was a leader in the Latter Day Saint movement and an original member of The Quorum of Twelve Apostles from 1835 until his murder in 1857. He served in the Quorum with his younger brother, Orson Pratt. He was a productive missionary, religious writer and long-time editor of the religious publication The Latter-day Saints' Millennial Star.

On a preaching mission in 1857, Pratt was being tracked by Hector McLean, the disgruntled husband of a woman, Eleanor McLean, whom Pratt had recently married as a plural wife. McLean pressed charges, accusing Pratt of coming between him and the woman who was then his wife. Pratt managed to evade him and his charges, but was finally arrested in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma). He was tried before Judge John B Ogden, acquitted and released. However, shortly afterward, he was killed by Hector McLean and two other men on 13 May 1857, on a farm northeast of Van Buren, Arkansas.
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Sarah And Maria, The Lawrence Sisters
Thursday, Mar 29, 2007, at 06:59 AM
Original Author(s): Randy Jordan
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
"The Lawrence sisters had come to Nauvoo from Canada without their parents in 1840 when Maria was about eighteen and Sarah fifteen. Emma and Joseph offered them a home. According to William Law's account, the girls had inherited about eight thousand dollars in 'English gold.' Law said, 'Joseph got to be appointed their guardian,' and indicated that he and Sidney Rigdon were bondsmen to Joseph. After Emma approved of the Lawrence marriages, William Law accused her of doing so with an eye to helping Joseph secure the inheritance. Joseph's history dated May 30, 1843, reads, 'I superintended the preparation of papers to settle the Lawrence estate,' and four days later the 'accounts of the Lawrence estate were presented to the probate judge, to which he made objection.'

"Apparently problems with the inheritance occupied Joseph for at least fifteen months. According to Joseph's history, the girls' stepfather, Josiah Butterfield, insulted him 'so outrageously' on March 28, 1843, that Joseph 'kicked him out of the house, across the yard and into the street.' By June 4, 1844, Joseph was counseling John Taylor 'to go on with the prosecution in behalf of Maria Lawrence. I concluded to go to Quincy with Taylor, and give up my bonds of guardianship as administrator of the Lawrence estate.'

"Neither of the Lawrence sisters left any account of their marriages to Joseph, but their experiences were probably similar to those of the Partridge sisters. For almost a year the four young women would live with the Smiths, but the situation was most difficult. Emily wrote that Emma 'said some very bad things' about the plural marriages and her 'interviews were quite common.'"

---"Mormon Enigma: Emma Hale Smith," p. 144.)

Emma Smith vacillated between reluctantly accepting Joseph's affairs and being outraged to the point of throwing the girls out of her house.

Incidentally, shortly before Smith's death, his former counselor in the church presidency, William Law, filed charges at Carthage which included the accusation that Smith was "living in an open state of adultery with Maria Lawrence."
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Mormon Polyandry And Polygamy: "Whatever The Prophet [Joseph Smith] Did Was Right, Without Making The Wisdom Of God's Authorities Bend To The Reasoning Of Any Man."
Monday, May 7, 2007, at 07:09 AM
Original Author(s): Freeatlast
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Henry Jacob's quote comes from: http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/05-..., which contains info. and quotes from Todd Compton's "In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith". From that link, note how Joseph Smith psychologically coerced Zina Huntington Jacobs, a convert with her family, to marry him after she'd married Henry:
"Zina later wrote, that within months of her marriage to Henry, "[Joseph] sent word to me by my brother, saying, ‘Tell Zina, I put it off and put it off till an angel with a drawn sword stood by me and told me if I did not establish that principle upon the earth I would lose my position and my life’". In other words, it wasn't Joseph's fault that he was supposed to marry Zina; the 'blame' was God's, the ultimate authority figure in the universe, according to the 'spiritual' belief system of Smith and early church converts."
Even before Zina married Henry, Joseph had approached her to become one of his plural wives. Note (from the linked webpage) her mental distress after Smith's 'proposal': "O dear Heaven, grant me wisdom! Help me to know the way. O Lord, my god, let thy will be done and with thine arm around about to guide, shield and direct..."

Not surprisingly, Smith had sent Henry away on missions, which took him far from his wife and family for years (in total). Did Smith himself make such a sacrifice to 'build up the Kingdom of God on Earth'? No, he remained in the same community as Zina and his other plural wives, while their husbands toiled, hundreds and even thousands of miles away, on behalf of the religious organization established by Smith.

According to the info. on the linked webpage, after Smith was killed and Zina became one of Young's plural wives, she began to live openly as such. Her husband was sent away on yet another mission (to England). Why, by 1846, did she allow it to be known in the Mormon church/community that she was involved with 'the higher law of Celestial Marriage', when just 6-7 years earlier, polygamy had caused her great distress? Because she'd been psychologically broken to the 'principle'.

Her former natural resistance to polygamy, as a woman and someone with a Protestant religious heritage (Protestantism held that the only marriage/union authorized by God was between one man and one woman), had eroded. How was this accomplished? Zina stopped thinking for herself about the type of marriage that 'God' approved of. Because she replaced her thoughts and opinions about polygamy with Joseph's, and over time, her initial, innate rejection of polygamy, religiously/psychologically and emotionally, eroded.

Another psychological factor, IMO, was that after Smith's death, Young became the most powerful leader in the church. He was a psychologically strong and willful man. Throughout history, many women have been attracted to powerful, strong men. Zina was no different. She'd disempowered herself by going against her initial instinct that polygamy was wrong and relented to Mormon patriarchal authority. Zina was unconsciously looking for a restoration of power in her life. Since she would never be a priesthood leader in the Mormon Church (exercising power and authority), the next best thing was to marry the most powerful man in the church: The President/'Prophet'.

One of the psychological phenomena in Mormonism during the past 6-7 generations has been the elevated status of Mormon women who have been married to church leaders. The 'higher' in the pyramidal leadership structure the husband was (is), the greater the wife's status in the Mormon community. I think that Young's elevated status in the church after Smith's death upon becoming church President appealed to Zina. Her own insecurity would be offset in the Mormon community by her status as one of the wives of 'the Prophet'.

Henry, Zina's first husband, was clearly not powerful/strong. He was a follower, an obedient 'servant', who year after year, left his wife and children to obediently go away on a mission. I think Zina grew tired of his lack of 'spine', and his neglect of her in terms of being around and a regular part of her life.

Mormon polygamy could not have been achieved had early church converts such as Zina and Henry not stopped thinking for themselves. Accepting polygamy, which was morally reprehensible to early church converts initially because of their Protestant/Christian heritage, involved replacing their thinking with the beliefs/thinking of 'the Prophet'. Converts thought that they were surrendering their will to God's when in fact, they were only surrendering their will to Smith's, which he had 'packaged' as God's will, having convinced himself that it was.

The history of Mormon polygamy reveals the Smith's Machiavellian side; he broke people psychologically to the 'principle of plural wives' in very cunning (and different) ways. In the case of Brigham Young, he wore the Apostle down psychologically over a period of months, as indicated in "The Mormons". Smith used the example of the Old Testament polygamist-patriarch, Abraham, in his conversations with Young. With 55+ wives and children later in life, Young became an Abraham more than any other Mormon priesthood leader, a great 'patriarch' in the Latter-day 'Kingdom of God on Earth'.

In the case of Zina Huntington Jacobs, the process of psychologically breaking her to the idea of polygamy involved Smith presenting himself as an extremely reluctant 'prophet' who had been threatened with 'divine' destruction via an armed angel if he did not comply (by marrying Zina, as 'coincidence' would have it).

In the case of Apostle Heber C. Kimball and his wife, Vilate, Smith wasn't sexually interested in his friend's spouse, but in the Kimball's willful, 14-year old daughter, Helen. The only way to get sexual access to the girl was to psychologically break her parents, which is exactly what Smith did by telling Heber and Vilate that God had commanded him to relay a message that Vilate was to marry Smith. God was 'sorely' testing the Kimballs' faith to see if they were truly 'worthy' (so they believed).

After agonizing over the decision (the Kimballs' religious heritage was Protestant), Vilate reluctantly agreed. After much crying and drama, Smith announced to the Kimballs that, happy day!, they'd passed their test of faith, and God had recently updated his 'revelation': Vilate would no longer be required to marry Joseph. The Kimballs were clueless about the terrible psychological shock that lay in store for them.

Having broken Helen's parents to the concept of plural wives, gaining sexual access to her was that much easier, but Smith still had to be cunning. Instead of speaking with the teenage girl himself about becoming his wife (Smith, at age 37, was old enough to be Helen's father), he used her Achilles' Heel: Her love for her family and sense of devotion to her father. Through Heber, Smith informed Helen that God had 'revealed' that if she would marry Smith (and their marriage union would be non-sexual), her family would be guaranteed 'eternal salvation'. However, God's offer was time-limited; Helen had just 24 hours to respond.

Upon hearing this 'message' from her father about marrying Smith, Helen became angry. But having been broken himself to the idea of polygamy, Heber talked with his daughter about how it was a practice in the Bible (which the girl believed contained God's word). With the clock ticking, Helen finally relented. Unbeknownst to her as she participated in the marriage ceremony involving Smith, he would later take from her that which was most precious, as her diary written much later in her life indicated.
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Did Joseph Smith Have Sex With Other Men's Legal Wives?
Thursday, Jun 28, 2007, at 07:01 AM
Original Author(s): Onandagus1
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
In a discussion off this forum, Kimberly Ann noted that while LDS apologists don't dispute that Joseph Smith *'married'* other men's wives, they generally do dispute that he had sex with these women.

This position is virtually indefensible, and demonstrably wrong. Joseph Smith *did* have sex with women he had himself 'sealed' to who were legally married to other men.

There are several lines of evidence for this:

First, in marriage the presumption is that sex occurs, unless we have reason to believe otherwise.

Second, more than one of Joseph Smith's otherwise-married wives explicity stated that she was married to him for "*time* and eternity." Mary Lightner and, if I recall correctly, Patty Sessions specifically indicated this with respect to their marriages to Smith.

Third, the rationale offered for plural marriage was "to raise up seed unto the Lord." If Joseph Smith did *not* have sex with his otherwise-married plural wives, he was flouting the very reason for marrying them.

Fourth, three important evidences indicate that Sylvia Sessions Lyon, legal wife of Windsor P. Lyon, believed her other husband, Joseph Smith, to be the father of her daughter Josephine Lyon. 1) Josephine herself left an affidavit that her mother gave her death-bed testimony that she (Josephine) was Smith's child. Supporting this testimony, Sylvia's Nauvoo friend Mary Ettie V. Smith reported in print that Sylvia had told her she was uncertain whether Windsor Lyon or Joseph Smith was the father of her child. And, notably, she named the child *Josephine*, likely in honor of the suspected father.

Fifth, when Joseph Smith proposed to William Law's wife Jane (a proposal documented in LDS sources as well), it is quite clear that the Laws understood this proposal to include a this-worldly relationship. Law, writing in his journal in April 1844, recorded that Smith had "lately attempted to seduce my wife and found her a virtuous woman."

Sixth, one of the men introduced to polyandrous marriage *by* Joseph Smith appears to have lived with the polyandrous wife. While Orson Hyde was on a mission to Palestine, Smith married Hyde's wife Nancy to Willard Richards. Shortly thereafter, Richards was reported to have been notorious for "Hydeing." And the printer of the Times and Seasons, Ebenezer Robinson, recalled that when the Twelve took over the TandS office, Richards took up living there with Mrs. Hyde. Smith himself performed the marriage between Richards and Nancy Hyde. And when the marriage dissolved a few months later, Smith had Nancy sealed to *himself*!

Given that Smith had "given" Nancy to Richards, Richards' information on how he should and should not relate to her would have come from Smith. So, Smith evidently taught Richards that it was alright (and perhaps expected or required) for him to have sex with an otherwise married 'wife'! Also, it seems unlikely that Richards would cohabit with Nancy when she was *his* polyandrous wife yet Smith would *not*, particularly since Smith was the one who had instructed Richards...

This list of evidences is not exhaustive, but should be sufficient to convince a reasonable and open-minded person that Joseph Smith had sex with at least a significant proportion of his polyandrous wives, if not almost all of them.
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A Smith Conundrum - Monogamy Gives Way To Polygamy
Thursday, Jul 12, 2007, at 08:28 AM
Original Author(s): Jimmy Rainbow
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Monogamy gives way to polygamy but the scriptures remain the same.

Polygamy was initially practiced in secret of course and many women had no idea when their husbands took new wives as Joseph Smith instructed men not to tell their wives. Certainly with Smith himself, Emma had no idea about a number of his wives until well after the event, some not at all. When she did find out she threw several of them out of the house over the years. (References are many and well enough known on this).

Plural marriage is also specifically condemned in the Book of Mormon:
“For behold, thus saith the Lord: this people begin to wax in iniquity; they understand not the scriptures, for they seek to excuse themselves in committing whoredoms, because of the things which were written concerning David and Solomon his son. “Behold David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.” Book of Mormon. Jacob 2: 23-24.
Contrast this with The Doctrine and Covenants:
“Verily thus saith the Lord… you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants… David and Solomon,… as touching the principle and doctrine of having many wives and concubines - … “David’s wives and concubines were given unto him of me.” D and C 132: 1 and 39.
In a letter to Morris L Reynolds dated 14 July 1966, LeGrand Richards said, in reference to the Book of Mormon confirming the practice “abominable” and the D and C stating “justified” both referring to the wives of David and both preceded by “Thus saith the Lord” - “I am afraid I can’t adequately reconcile these two statements...” “If the one in Doctrine and Covenants 132:1 had omitted the names of David and Solomon, then I think I could reconcile the two statements.”

Obviously it cannot actually be explained as it is contradicting doctrine and contradictory words purported to be from God. God does not lie; Joseph Smith is here evidenced as doing so. It is absolute evidence that Joseph Smith stated polygamy was abominable in 1830 before he practiced it and later he had it magically justified using the same reference when he started to get involved with women other than Emma. The Church still cannot and does not answer this conundrum. It is simply ignored as it cannot be explained.

Well… we know the explanation don’t we? But then we got out of the Matrix and can see.
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Joseph Smith's Mother / Daughter Problem
Friday, Oct 26, 2007, at 04:33 AM
Original Author(s): Cooper
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Sylvia Porter Sessions married Joseph Smith on Feb. 8, 1842. She was the daughter of David Sessions and Patty Bartlett Sessions, who became Joseph Smith's tenth wife. Patty Bartlett Sessions married Joseph Smith on Mar. 9, 1842. At the time of her marriage to Smith, she was already married to David Sessions, and their daughter Sylvia Porter Sessions was already the eighth wife of Joseph Smith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_S...

Patty Bartlett Sessions, the wife of David Sessions, made it clear in her private journal that she was married to Joseph Smith for both "time" and "eternity":
"I was sealed to Joseph Smith by Willard Richards Mar 9, 1842, in Newel K. Whitney's chamber, Nauvoo, for time and all eternity…Sylvia my daughter was present when I was sealed to Joseph Smith." (Journal of Patty Sessions, as quoted in Intimate Disciple, Portrait of Willard Richards, 1957, p. 611)

http://trialsofascension.net/mormon/p...

Joseph Smith had at least one child with Sylvia.

"- Stake President Angus Cannon also testified: "I will now refer you to one case where it was said by the girl's grandmother that your father [Joseph Smith] has a daughter born of a plural wife. The girl's grandmother was Mother Sessions . . . She was the grand-daughter of Mother Sessions. That girl, I believe, is living today, in Bountiful, north of this city. I heard prest. Young, a short time before his death, refer to the report . . . The woman is now said to have a family of children, and I think she is still living." (Stake President Angus M. Cannon, statement of interview with Joseph III, 25-26, LDS archives.)

- Faithful Mormon and wife of Joseph Smith, Sylvia Sessions (Lyon), on her deathbed told her daughter, Josephine, that she (Josephine) was the daughter of Joseph Smith. Josephine testified: "She (Sylvia) then told me that I was the daughter of the Prophet Joseph Smith, she having been sealed to the Prophet at the time that her husband Mr. Lyon was out of fellowship with the Church." (Affidavit to Church Historian Andrew Jenson, 24 Feb. 1915)

http://i4m.com/think/history/joseph_s...

You will notice here that Joseph Smith married Sylvia Porter Sessions/Lyon/Smith/Kimball/Clark and impregnated her with Joseph Rosetta Lyon while she was still married to Windsor Lyon. After bearing Joseph’s child she bore two more children for Windsor Lyon.

7. Sylvia Porter Sessions (Lyon) (Smith) (Kimball) (Clark), 1818-82, married Joseph Smith polyandrously on February 8, 1842, at age twenty-three, and bore him one child, Josephine Lyon (Fisher), on February 8, 1844. Sylvia had married Windsor Lyon in 1838 and stayed with him for eleven years, bearing him four children, all of whom died as infants. He was excommunicated in Nauvoo in November 1842, due to a financial/legal conflict with Nauvoo Stake President William Marks, but was rebaptized in January 1846. Sylvia married Heber C. Kimball for time, polyandrously, on January 26, 1846, but did not go west with him, staying with Lyon. After Lyon's death in January 1849, she married a non-Mormon, Ezekiel Clark, in Iowa on January 1, 1850. She bore him three children (all of whom survived) but left him and came to Bountiful, Utah, in 1854.

Parents:David Sessions and Patty Bartlett
Born:July 31, 1818, Newry, Maine
Died:April 12, 1882, Bountiful, Utah

Marriage to Joseph Smith:about 1843
Other Marriages:Windsor Palmer Lyon, 1838, Far West, Missouri
Heber Chase Kimball, January 1846, Nauvoo, Illinois
Ezekiel Clark, January 1, 1850, Iowa City, Iowa

Children:
1. Marian Lyon, July 30, 1839, Nauvoo, Illinois
2. Philofreen Lyon, June 11, 1841, Nauvoo, Illinois
3. Asa Windsor Lyon, December 25, 1842, Nauvoo, Illinois
4. Josephine Rosetta Lyon, February 8, 1844, Nauvoo, Illinois
5. Byron Windsor Lyon, September 4, 1847, Iowa City, Iowa
6. David Carlos Lyon, August 8, 1848, Iowa City, Iowa
7. Perry Ezekiel Clark, February 8, 1851, Iowa City, Iowa
8. Phebe Jane Clark, September 1, 1852, Iowa City, Iowa
9. Martha Sylvia Clark, January 20, 1854, Iowa City, Iowa

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olymp...

This seemed to start a trend of marrying women who were still married to other men. Brigham Young followed in Joe’s swinging footsteps as the following list indicates. The numbered names following the wives are the wives’ other husbands.

1. 1824 Oct. 8 Miriam Works, 1806-32
2. 1834 Feb. 10 Mary Ann Angel, 1808-82

Married during Joseph Smith's life
3. 1842 June 14 Lucy Ann Decker, 1822-90 (1) William Seeley
4. 1843 Nov. 2 Augusta Adams, 1802-86 (1) Henry Cobb
5. 1843 Nov. 2 Harriet Cook, 1824-98
6. 1844 May 8 Clarissa Decker, 1828-89

Married before completion of Nauvoo Temple
7. 1844 Sept. Emily Dow Partridge, 1824-99 (1) Joseph Smith
8. 1844 Sept. 10 Clarissa Ross, 1814-57
9. 1844 Sept. 19 Louisa Beaman, 1815-50 (1) Joseph Smith
10. 1844 Oct. 3 Eliza Roxey Snow, 1804-87 (1) Joseph Smith
11. 1844 Oct. 3 Elizabeth Fairchild, 1828-1910 (2) James D. Lyman
(3) Joseph McMurray
(4) James Matthews
(5) W. L. Chastain
12. 1844 Oct. 8 Clarissa Blake, 1796-not known
13. 1844 Oct. 9 Rebecca Holman, 1824-49
14. 1844 Oct. 10 Diana Chase, 1827-86 (2) William M. Shaw
15. 1844 Oct. 31 Susannah Snively, 1815-92
16. 1844 Nov. 7 Olive Gray Frost, 1816-45
17. 1845 Jan. 15 Mary Ann Clark, 1816-not known (1) Mr. Powers
18. 1845 Jan. 16 Margaret Pierce, 1823-1907 (1) Morris Whitesides
19. 1845 Jan. 16 Mary Pierce, 1821-47
20. 1845 April 30 Emmeline Free, 1826-75
21. 1845 May 22 Mary Elizabeth Rollins, 1818-191 (1) Adam Lightner
(2) Joseph Smith

Married after completion of Nauvoo Temple
22. 1846 Jan. 14 Margaret Alley, 1825-52
23. 1846 Jan. 15 Olive Andrews, 1818-not known (1) Joseph Smith
24. 1846 Jan. 15 Emily Haws, 1823-not known (1) William Whitmarsh
25. 1846 Jan. 21 Martha Bowker, 1822-90
26. 1846 Jan. 21 Ellen Rockwood, 1829-66
27. 1846 Jan. 28 Jemima Angel, 1803-69 (1) Valentine Young
28. 1846 Jan. 28 Abigail Marks, 1781-1846 (1) Asa Works
29. 1846 Jan. 28 Phebe Morton, 1776-1854 (1) James W. Angel
30. 1846 Jan. 28 Cynthia Porter, 1783-not known (1) Mr. Weston
31. 1846 Jan. 31 Mary Eliza Nelson, 1812-85 (1) John P. Greene
(3) Bruce 1. Philips
32. 1846 Jan. 31 Rhoda Richards, 1784-1879 (1) Joseph Smith
33. 1846 Feb. 2 Zina Huntington, 1821-1901 (1) Henry Jacobs
34. 1846 Feb. 3 Amy Cecilia Cooper, 1804-not known not known
35. 1846 Feb. 3 Mary Ellen de la Montague, 1803-not known (1) James B. Woodward
36. 1846 Feb. 3 Julia Foster, 1811-91 (1) Jonathan Hampton
(3) Thomas Cole
37. 1846 Feb. 3 Abigail Harback, 1790-1849 (1) Mr. Hall
38. 1846 Feb. 3 Mary Ann Turley, 1827-1904 (2) John Cook
39. 1846 Feb. 6 Naamah Carter, 1821-1909 (1) John S. Twiss
40. 1846 Feb. 6 Nancy Cressy, 1780-1872 (1) Mr. Walker

Married while crossing the plains
41. 1847 Feb. 10 Jane Terry, 1819-47 (1) George Tarbox
(2) George W. Young
42. 1847 March 20 Lucy Bigelow, 1830-1905
43. 1847 March 20 Mary Jane Bigelow, 1827-68 (2) Horace Roberts
(3) Philander Bell
44. 1848 April 18 Sarah Malin, 1804-58

Married in Utah: 1850's
45. 1852 Oct. 3 Eliza Burgess, 1827-1915
46. 1852 Dec. 16 Mary Oldfield, 1793--1875 (1) Eli Kelsey
47. before 1853 Eliza Babcock, 1828-68 (2) Dominucus Carter
(3) John Groves
48. 1855 June 10 Catherine Reese, 1804-60 (1) Zepheniah Clawson
49. 1856 March 14 Harriet Barney, 1830-1911 (1) W.H.H. Sagers

Married in Utah: 1860's
50. 1863 Jan, 24 Amelia Folsom, 1838-1910
51. 1865 Jan. 8 Mary Van Cott, 1844-84 (1) James T. Cobb
52. 1868 April 7 Ann Eliza Webb, 1844-not known (1) James L. Dee
(3) Moses R. Deming
53. 1869 July 3 Elizabeth Jones, 1814-95 (1) David T. Lewis
(2) Dan Jones

Married in Utah: 1870's
54. 1870 May 8 Lydia Farnsworth, 1808-97 (1) Elijah Mayhew
55. 1872 Dec. 8 Hannah Tapfield, 1807-86 (1) Thomas O. King

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/b...
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Using Mormon Church Websites To Show Their Lies
Tuesday, Jan 15, 2008, at 08:17 AM
Original Author(s): Struggle_within
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
The LDS website says that Zina Huntngton was married to Brigham Young after she was widowed by her first husband (total BS). They never allude to the fact that she was married to Joseph Smith. They also don't tell you that when both Brigham and Joseph married her she was still married to and living with Henry Jacobs.

So lets use two church websites to contradict each other and show the lying and whitewashing of history the Morg does.

The Lie is here: http://www.lds.org/pa/display/0,17884...

The truth is here: http://www.familysearch.org

In the Search Fields type

Zina

Huntington

Birth/Christening

1821

Exact Year

United States

New York

There you will see a list of husbands showing that she was married to Henry Jacobs 7 mos before she married Joseph Smith and 5 yrs before she married Brigham Young. To prove that she wasn't widowed by Jacobs you only need click on his name to bring up his records verifying that he died in 1866 much later than the 1846 marriage to Brigham. Lying Bastards.
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They've Been Lying About Polygamy Since The Very Beginning
Monday, Apr 21, 2008, at 11:32 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
In 1833, the same year that Smith began his involvement with polygamy by 'marrying' Fanny Alger, the church published the Book of Commandments (the predecessor of the Doctrine and Covenants) which contained the following statement: “Inasmuch as this church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy: we declare that we believe, that one man should have one wife; and one woman, but one husband, except in case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again.” (Section C1, 251).

This statement was affirmed as canonized doctrine in August 1835 in a vote by the church’s General Assembly (Van Wagoner, 8). This statement continued to appear in subsequent publications of the Doctrine and Covenants until well after Smith’s death in 1844.

Smith again denied involvement in the 1838 church publication Elder’s Journal where he answered the specific question “Do the Mormons believe in having more wives than one?” with an insistent “No, not at the same time.” (Van Wagoner, 16).

Rumors persisted, however, and in October 1842 the church publication Times and Seasons printed a statement reaffirming the church’s condemnation of the practice of plural marriage. The statement was signed by many of Nauvoo’s prominent male citizens and was accompanied by a separate declaration supported by the leading ladies of the Relief Society (Times and Seasons, October 1842). Notable among the signatories were Eliza Snow and Sarah Cleveland who had already become plural wives of Joseph Smith. Also notable were N.K. Whitney and his wife Elizabeth who added their support for the declarations despite knowing that their daughter, seventeen-year-old Sarah Ann, had married Joseph Smith the previous July (Compton, In Sacred Loneliness 4-6).

On March 4, 1843, nineteen-year-old Emily Partridge was married to Smith becoming his nineteenth wife. Her sister, Eliza (age twenty-two), became his twentieth wife four days later (Compton, In Sacred Loneliness 6). On March 15th, the church publication Times and Seasons printed a statement declaring the charge that polygamy was being practiced among the saints as “false and ridiculous”; further stating that no group had a greater respect for the “laws of matrimony” than they. Within one year of that published statement, Smith would go on to marry at least seven additional women (Van Wagoner, 55).

Smith’s final denial came just a few months before his death in 1844 when, speaking to a group of loyal followers, he protested the unjust accusation of having multiple wives when he had only one (History of the Church, 6:411). Despite his emphatic declaration of innocence, Smith had at least thirty-three plural wives at the time of the speech (Compton, In Sacred Loneliness 4-7).

After Smith’s murder, the Church continued to deny that polygamy was a practice among the saints. In 1848, the church publication Millennial Star called for retaliation against those who continued to perpetuate the lie that “such odious practices as spiritual wivery and polygamy” was being practiced in the church.

During a famous 1850 debate with a clergyman in France, LDS Church leader John Taylor declared to be false the accusation “of polygamy and actions the most indelicate, obscene, and disgusting, such that none but a corrupt and depraved heart could have contrived. These things are too outrageous to admit of belief.” At the time of that emphatic pronouncement, Taylor (who would later become church president) had ten plural wives. (Hirschon, 117) Church leaders would not openly declare polygamy as official church doctrine until 1852 (Van Wagoner, 5).

Emma Smith never reconciled herself to the doctrine of plural marriage. She was initially unaware of her husband’s liaisons and later alternated between begrudging acceptance and outright hostility to the practice. When Emma was initially presented the written revelation commanding polygamy by her brother-in-law Hyrum in July 1843, he reported that “he had never received a more severe talking to in his life….Emma was very bitter.” (Van Wagoner, 76-87).

After Joseph’s murder, she continued to deny his involvement both publicly and privately to her children. When Joseph Smith III accepted the call to lead what would become the Reorganized LDS Church, he denounced the practice of polygamy claiming that it had been introduced by Brigham Young and insisting that his father had never “taught such doctrine.” Later, when her two sons Joseph III and Alexander presented her with specific written questions regarding the topic of polygamy, Emma continued to deny that their father had ever taken additional wives. (Van Wagoner, 113-115).

The lying continues.
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The Cunning Joseph Smith, And Placating Heber, Submissive Vilate, And Unsuspecting Helen Kimball
Friday, May 2, 2008, at 07:21 AM
Original Author(s): Freeatlast
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Many Latter-day Saints believe that Joseph Smith was compelled by God to practice polygamy. The Lord supposedly ‘persuaded’ Smith to start a new lifestyle involving plural wives–including married woman and teenage girls young enough to be his daughters–by dispatching an angel armed with a sword and threatening Smith with “utter destruction” if he didn’t comply. Apparently, the Lord had no ethical dilemma about using a death threat to ‘convince’ Smith to exercise his ‘free agency’ in the way God supposedly wanted.

By May 1843, when 37-year old Joseph Smith made 14-year old Helen Kimball his latest plural wife, he had already ‘reluctantly’ complied with the weapon-backed-up ‘divine commandment’ at least 24 times (ref. http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org). To any thinking person familiar with this episode in Mormon history, the obvious question arises: Why go after a girl young enough to be Smith’s daughter, and why not do so directly instead of going through her father, Heber Kimball?

The answer to the first part of the question is found in DandC 132:61-63 - the bits about desiring virgins who could “multiply and replenish the earth” by bearing “the souls of men” (ref. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/132/6...).

The answer to the second part reveals a side of Smith that few Latter-day Saints know existed: cunning. Certainly, if Joseph Smith, as ‘prophet’ and church president, had desired young Helen, he could have gone to her directly and told her himself that he wanted her to become his (next) plural wife, or that God had commanded him to pass on the message, and please, would she be good enough to comply. But neither happened. Latter-day Saints need to ask themselves, “Why not?”

What did occur was that Smith ordered Mormon Apostle Heber Kimball to give his beloved wife, Vilate, mother of Helen, to Smith to be his plural wife (see footnote # 63 at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_S...).

Stanley B. Kimball, Heber's great-great-grandson, wrote the following in “Biography of Heber C. Kimball, “Heber C. Kimball, Mormon Patriarch and Pioneer” (p. 93):

“During the summer of 1841, shortly after Heber's return from England, he was introduced to the doctrine of plural marriage directly through a startling test-a sacrifice which shook his very being and challenged his faith to the ultimate. He had already sacrificed homes, possessions, friends, relatives, all worldly rewards, peace, and tranquility for the Restoration. Nothing was left to place on the altar save his life, his children, and his wife. Joseph demanded for himself what to Heber was the unthinkable, his Vilate. Totally crushed spiritually and emotionally, Heber touched neither food nor water for three days and three nights and continually sought confirmation and comfort from God.” Finally, after “some kind of assurance,” Heber took Vilate to the upper room of Joseph's store on Water Street [to become Smith’s latest plural wife].”

Curiously, after all the psychological and emotional drama, Joseph informed Heber and Vilate at the last minute that, well, he “had never intended to take Vilate. It was all a test.” (quoting Stanley B. Kimball; same book and page no.).

Clearly, the “test” imposed by Joseph Smith profoundly burdened the Kimballs. However, what it accomplished (from Smith’s perspective) was that it psychologically broke Heber and Vilate to the concept and practice of polygamy. We’ll see presently why this was necessary.

In terms of his moral and religious upbringing, Heber wrote of his parents in “Synopsis of the History of Heber C. Kimball”:

“My father was a man of good moral character, and though he did not profess any religion, he taught his children good morals, and never would suffer them to swear, or play upon the Sabbath day without correcting them, but would have them remain at home and read good books or attend the church.

My mother was a Presbyterian, and agreeably to the strictest sense of their religion, she lived a virtuous life, and according to the best of her knowledge taught her children the ways of righteousness.” (ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heber_Ki...)

The Presbyterian religion held that marriage between one man and one woman was ordained of God (ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian). Polygamy and polyandry were not aspects of Presbyterianism. Immigrants to North America from England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland brought their Presbyterian beliefs and values with them, establishing churches.

Once Heber’s and Vilate’s psychological resistance to polygamy was broken, what happened? “Smith required Heber to marry Sarah Peake Noon (which he did in 1842; ref. http://byustudies.byu.edu/Indexes/BioAlpha/MBRegisterK.aspx), and “commanded Heber to keep the plural marriage secret even from Vilate.” “Heber was told by Joseph that if he did not do this he would lose his apostleship and be damned.” (see footnote # 63 at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_S...).

Why did Joseph Smith do this? To make Heber complicit in the practice of polygamy, which Smith had started, and to possess a major secret involving Heber that Joseph could use against him later on, if necessary. What kind of ‘favor’ might the naïve, Mormon Apostle need to be ‘persuaded’ to perform on behalf of the ‘prophet’? Having a conversation with Heber’s 14-year old daughter about polygamy and becoming Smith’s plural wife. The next ‘chapter’ in this part of Mormon history involved, not surprisingly, Heber Kimball initiating such a conversation. Helen wrote the following about it:

“Without any preliminaries [my Father] asked me if I would believe him if he told me that it was right for married men to take other wives...The first impulse was anger...my sensibilities were painfully touched. I felt such a sense of personal injury and displeasure; for to mention such a thing to me I thought altogether unworthy of my father, and as quick as he spoke, I replied to him, short and emphatically, ‘No I wouldn’t!’...This was the first time that I ever openly manifested anger towards him...Then he commenced talking seriously and reasoned and explained the principle, and why it was again to be established upon the earth. [This] had a similar effect to a sudden shock of a small earthquake.”

Then father “asked me if I would be sealed to Joseph...[and] left me to reflect upon it for the next twenty-four hours...I was sceptical-one minute believed, then doubted. I thought of the love and tenderness that he felt for his only daughter, and I knew that he would not cast her off, and this was the only convincing proof that I had of its being right. I knew that he loved me too well to teach me anything that was not strictly pure, virtuous and exalting in its tendencies; and no one else could have influenced me at that time or brought me to accept of a doctrine so utterly repugnant and so contrary to all of our former ideas and traditions.” (ref. http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/26-...)

Note that young Helen received no ‘spiritual witness’ from God that she should become Smith’s plural wife; “the only convincing proof” was her belief that her father “would not cast her off”. It’s also noteworthy that Helen was given just 24 hours by her father in which to make a life-transforming decision about marrying Smith. Why did Heber Kimball apply such pressure on his daughter? Helen herself provided the answer:

“Having a great desire to be connected with the Prophet Joseph, he offered me to him; this I afterwards learned from the Prophet’s own mouth. My father had but one Ewe Lamb, but willingly laid her upon the alter” (ref. http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/26-...)

Bear in mind that by the spring of 1843, Heber Kimball had been practicing polygamy in secret with Sarah Noon since the previous year. What was it about Heber’s psychology that compelled him to offer his daughter as a plural wife to Joseph Smith without first asking her if it would be alright to do so, and then to give his daughter just 24 hours to decide? A need to please a charismatic religious authority figure (Joseph Smith), which stemmed from Heber’s insecurity. By 1843, Heber had surrendered enough of himself to please the Mormon prophet and comply with what he said was the will of God that it was almost a foregone conclusion that he would do whatever Smith told him was a “test” of his faith. Heber Kimball had no right to unilaterally offer his daughter to Smith for his personal gain (i.e., his guaranteed ‘eternal salvation’).

Helen also wrote the following about her experience of being approached by her father about polygamy: “I felt such a sense of personal injury and displeasure; for him to mention such a thing to me I thought altogether unworthy of my father.” (Helen Mar Whitney, “Life Incidents,” Woman's Exponent 11, August 1, 1882, p. 39)

From the Wives of Joseph Smith website, which is based on the historical information in Todd Compton’s “In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith”:

“Unknown to Helen Mar, Heber and Joseph had already discussed the prospect of Helen Mar becoming one of Joseph’s wives. Heber now sought her agreement. Helen recalls, “Having a great desire to be connected with the Prophet Joseph, he offered me to him; this I afterwards learned from the Prophet’s own mouth. My father had but one Ewe Lamb, but willingly laid her upon the alter.”’

“The next morning Joseph visited the Kimball home. "[He explained] the principle of Celestial marriage...After which he said to me, ‘If you will take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father’s household and all of your kindred.[‘] This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward. None but God and his angels could see my mother’s bleeding heart-when Joseph asked her if she was willing...She had witnessed the sufferings of others, who were older and who better understood the step they were taking, and to see her child, who had scarcely seen her fifteenth summer, following in the same thorny path, in her mind she saw the misery which was as sure to come...; but it was all hidden from me.” Helen’s mother reluctantly agreed and in May of 1843, Helen married Joseph Smith.” (ref. http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/26-...)

Note how Smith ‘packaged’ the idea of plural marriage to make it palatable to the young Helen: “If you will take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation and that of your father’s household and all of your kindred.” He zeroed in on Helen’s love for her family and her desire “to purchase so glorious a reward” for them as psychological and emotional leverage.

Why did Vilate Kimball, Helen’s mother, not oppose the plural marriage of her 14-year old daughter to Smith, a man who already had two dozen wives and was old enough to be Helen’s father? Because she had already been psychologically broken to the concept and practice of polygamy by Smith when he required her husband to surrender her to him to be Smith’s plural wife.

Helen also wrote the following in her diary about her mother's reaction when Smith asked Vilate if she was willing to accept her daughter becoming his plural wife: “If Helen is willing, I have nothing more to say.” Helen continued: “She [Vilate Kimball] had witnessed the sufferings of others, who were older and who better understood the step they were taking, and to see her child, who had yet seen her fifteenth summer, following the same thorny path, in her mind she saw the misery which was as sure to come as the sun was to rise and set; but it was hidden from me.”

Why did Joseph Smith ask Vilate Kimball this question in front of her daughter? Vilate’s bland response tipped the balance in favor of what Smith wanted regarding young Helen. Smith knew that Vilate knew that he knew that she herself had already consented to becoming his plural wife. So, how could she then come out and say, “No, I’m opposed to you marrying my daughter!” Had Vilate done so, Smith could have replied, “Well, you yourself consented to become my plural wife, so why the opposition to the Lord’s will now?”

Why didn’t Smith tell Helen the “doctrines and principles” related to polygamy that he knew since 1831, according to the LDS Church (ref. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/132), which included “virgins” being “given” to Mormon men to “multiply and replenish the earth”? (see DandC 132:63). The answer to this question is found in Helen’s angry reaction to her father when he first told her about polygamy. Had Smith gone to the teenage girl himself and said, “I want you to become my plural wife”, she would have been shocked and her personality was strong enough that she would have surely rejected the idea (and Smith). Helen herself had described polygamy as “a doctrine so utterly repugnant and so contrary to all of our former ideas and traditions.”

The only way to ‘win’ young Helen over to the idea of polygamy was through the girl’s dear father, with her mother not opposing Smith making the 14-year old his plural wife. As his young bride, Helen wrote the following poem, which revealed her emotional state:

From sight and looked fair but pitying angels wept.
They saw my youthful friends grow shy and cold.
And poisonous darts from slanderous tongues were hurled, Untutored heart in the generous sacrifice,
Thou dids't not weigh the cost nor know the bitter price; Thy happy dreams all over thous't doomed alas to be
Barded out from social scenes by this thy destiny,
And over they sadened memories of sweet departed joys
They sickened heart will brood and imagine future woes, And like a fettered bird with wild and longing heart,
Thou wilt dayly pine for freedom and murmor at thy lot;

What happened to cause “poisonous darts from slanderous tongues” to be “hurled” at young Helen?
What were the “generous sacrifice”, “cost” and “bitter price” paid by her?
Why was Helen’s heart “sickened”?

In Nauvoo, Helen confided to a close friend: “I would never have been sealed to Joseph had I known it was anything more than ceremony. I was young, and they deceived me, by saying the salvation of our whole family depended on it.” (“Mormon Polygamy: A History”, Richard S. Van Wagoner, p. 53.)

What happened to young Helen that made her marriage to Joseph Smith “more than ceremony”?

What occurred to cause her to feel that she had been “deceived”?

There is only one logical (and obvious) answer to these questions: After marrying Helen, Joseph Smith had sex with her. Clearly, she had been led to believe that their marriage would be in name only. The dark truth of what Smith wanted from her was undoubtedly an enormous shock to her.

The conquest of young Helen Kimball had been the secret intention of Joseph Smith, Mormon ‘prophet’ and church president, all along. By 1843, he had been rebuffed by enough Mormon women, including married women, to have gained sufficient experience to know how to maximize his chances of getting what he wanted. According to Compton’s book, “Smith was always persistent in his marriage proposals, and rejections usually moved him to further effort.” (p. 80).

The approach that Joseph Smith used to gain access to young, naïve, vulnerable Helen Mar Kimball exposed the cunning, Machiavellian side of the ‘Prophet of the Restoration’.

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The Angel With The Drawn Sword Routine
Tuesday, Jun 3, 2008, at 08:20 AM
Original Author(s): Makurosu
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
The first time I heard the angel with the drawn sword excuse was actually in a BYU religion class. We weren't shown quotes or anything. It was just an offhand reference by one of my religion teachers that Joseph Smith had been given the revelation on plural marriage, but didn't want to live it until he was commanded by an angel with a drawn sword. It sounded pretty weak even then. I can't think of any way that it could possibly sound good when Joseph Smith said it. "Fanny, an angel with a drawn sword appeared to me last night and told me to have sex with my friends' wives and underage girls. Since you're only 16, what do you say we repair to the barn for a roll in the hay?"

Maybe I should start saying that. "I know I was supposed to paint the upstairs bathroom today, but an angel with a drawn sword came and commanded me to lay around all day and catch up on some episodes of Lost." Why would that work for Joseph Smith but not me? Maybe the angel thing is passe. Let's try it this way: "Last night I was abducted by aliens who told me that if I did not go out and buy a Sony Playstation 3 today that they would disintegrate me with their death ray." No, that doesn't sound any better.

Look at these quotes:

"When that principle was revealed to the Prophet Joseph Smith ... he did not falter, although it was not until an angel of God, with a drawn sword, stood before him; and commanded that he should enter into the practice of that principle, or he should be utterly destroyed, or rejected, that he moved forward to reveal and establish that doctrine." - Prophet Joseph F. Smith, "Plural Marriage for the Righteous Only-Obedience Imperative-Blessings Resulting", Journal of Discourses, Vol.20, p.28 - p.29

"Joseph was commanded to take more wives and he waited until an angel with a drawn sword stood before him and declared that if he longer delayed fulfilling that command he would slay him." - Hyrum Smith, Elder Benjamin F. Johnson's Letter to George S. Gibbs, 1903

"I know whereon I stand, I know what I believe, I know what I know and I know what I testify to you is the living truth. As I expect to meet it at the bar of the eternal Jehovah, it is true. And when you stand before the bar you will know. He preached polygamy and he not only preached it, but he practiced it. I am a living witness to it. It was given to him before he gave it to the Church. An angel came to him and the last time he came with a drawn sword in his hand and told Joseph if he did not go into that principle, he would slay him." - Sister Mary Lightner, Address to Brigham Young University, April 14th, 1905, BYU Archives and Manuscripts Also See: http://www.ldshistory.net/pc/merlbyu.htm

"His brother, Hyrum, said to me, "Now, Brother Benjamin, you know that Brother Joseph would not sanction this if it was not from the Lord. The Lord revealed this to Brother Joseph long ago, and he put it off until the Angel of the Lord came to him with a drawn sword and told him that he would be slain if he did not go forth and fulfill the law." He told my sister to have no fears, and he there and then sealed my sister, Almira, to the Prophet." - Joseph Smith's personal secretary and church patriarch, Elder Benjamin F. Johnson, My Life's Review

"The Prophet Joseph Smith there and then explained to me the doctrine of plurality of wives; he said that the Lord had revealed it unto him, and commanded him to have women sealed to him as wives; that he foresaw the trouble that would follow, and sought to turn away from the commandment; that an angel from heaven then appeared before him with a drawn sword, threatening him with destruction unless he went forward and obey the commandment." - Prophet Lorenzo R. Snow, sworn affidavit.

How outrageous! It's like that thread from yesterday about why the Garden of Eden in Missouri isn't a bigger deal. How did people go in for that? It's unbelievable. I'm absolutely stunned that women fell for that angel with the drawn sword line. "An angel threatened to kill you if you didn't have sex with me? Well, that makes me feel pretty undesirable, but here let me get this dress up over my head." Some people will believe anything.
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Joseph Smith, Polygamy, Other Men's Pregnant Wives, Mothers And Their Daughters
Thursday, Mar 12, 2009, at 08:14 AM
Original Author(s): Bennion
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner was seven months pregnant with Adam Lightner's son when she married Joseph Smith.

She married Joseph Smith on 17 January 1842 and gave birth to George Algernon Lightner on 22 March 1842.

Additional information:

Sylvia Porter Sessions married Joseph Smith on Feb. 8, 1842. She was the daughter of David Sessions and Patty Bartlett Sessions, who became Joseph Smith's tenth wife.

Patty Bartlett Sessions married Joseph Smith on Mar. 9, 1842. At the time of her marriage to Smith, she was already married to David Sessions, and their daughter Sylvia Porter Sessions was already the eighth wife of Joseph Smith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_S...

Patty Bartlett Sessions, the wife of David Sessions, made it clear in her private journal that she was married to Joseph Smith for both "time" and "eternity":

"I was sealed to Joseph Smith by Willard Richards Mar 9, 1842, in Newel K. Whitney's chamber, Nauvoo, for time and all eternity...Sylvia my daughter was present when I was sealed to Joseph Smith." (Journal of Patty Sessions, as quoted in Intimate Disciple, Portrait of Willard Richards, 1957, p. 611) http://trialsofascension.net/mormon/p...

Joseph Smith had at least one child with Sylvia.

"- Stake President Angus Cannon also testified: "I will now refer you to one case where it was said by the girl's grandmother that your father [Joseph Smith] has a daughter born of a plural wife. The girl's grandmother was Mother Sessions . . . She was the grand-daughter of Mother Sessions. That girl, I believe, is living today, in Bountiful, north of this city. I heard prest. Young, a short time before his death, refer to the report . . . The woman is now said to have a family of children, and I think she is still living." (Stake President Angus M. Cannon, statement of interview with Joseph III, 25-26, LDS archives.)

- Faithful Mormon and wife of Joseph Smith, Sylvia Sessions (Lyon), on her deathbed told her daughter, Josephine, that she (Josephine) was the daughter of Joseph Smith. Josephine testified: "She (Sylvia) then told me that I was the daughter of the Prophet Joseph Smith, she having been sealed to the Prophet at the time that her husband Mr. Lyon was out of fellowship with the Church." (Affidavit to Church Historian Andrew Jenson, 24 Feb. 1915)

http://i4m.com/think/history/joseph_s...

You will notice here that Joseph Smith married Sylvia Porter Sessions/Lyon/Smith/Kimball/Clark and impregnated her with Joseph Rosetta Lyon while she was still married to Windsor Lyon. After bearing Joseph's child she bore two more children for Windsor Lyon.

Sylvia Porter Sessions (Lyon) (Smith) (Kimball) (Clark), 1818-82, married Joseph Smith polyandrously on February 8, 1842, at age twenty-three, and bore him one child, Josephine Lyon (Fisher), on February 8, 1844. Sylvia had married Windsor Lyon in 1838 and stayed with him for eleven years, bearing him four children, all of whom died as infants. He was excommunicated in Nauvoo in November 1842, due to a financial/legal conflict with Nauvoo Stake President William Marks, but was rebaptized in January 1846. Sylvia married Heber C. Kimball for time, polyandrously, on January 26, 1846, but did not go west with him, staying with Lyon. After Lyon's death in January 1849, she married a non-Mormon, Ezekiel Clark, in Iowa on January 1, 1850. She bore him three children (all of whom survived) but left him and came to Bountiful, Utah, in 1854.

Parents:David Sessions and Patty Bartlett

Born:July 31, 1818, Newry, Maine

Died:April 12, 1882, Bountiful, Utah

Marriage to Joseph Smith:about 1843

Other Marriages:Windsor Palmer Lyon, 1838, Far West, Missouri

Heber Chase Kimball, January 1846, Nauvoo, Illinois

Ezekiel Clark, January 1, 1850, Iowa City, Iowa

Children:

1. Marian Lyon, July 30, 1839, Nauvoo, Illinois

2. Philofreen Lyon, June 11, 1841, Nauvoo, Illinois

3. Asa Windsor Lyon, December 25, 1842, Nauvoo, Illinois

4. Josephine Rosetta Lyon, February 8, 1844, Nauvoo, Illinois

5. Byron Windsor Lyon, September 4, 1847, Iowa City, Iowa

6. David Carlos Lyon, August 8, 1848, Iowa City, Iowa

7. Perry Ezekiel Clark, February 8, 1851, Iowa City, Iowa

8. Phebe Jane Clark, September 1, 1852, Iowa City, Iowa

9. Martha Sylvia Clark, January 20, 1854, Iowa City, Iowa

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olymp...

This seemed to start a trend of marrying women who were still married to other men. Brigham Young followed in Joe's swinging footsteps as the following list indicates. The numbered names following the wives are the wives' other husbands.

1. 1824 Oct. 8 Miriam Works, 1806-32

2. 1834 Feb. 10 Mary Ann Angel, 1808-82

Married during Joseph Smith's life

3. 1842 June 14 Lucy Ann Decker, 1822-90 (1) William Seeley

4. 1843 Nov. 2 Augusta Adams, 1802-86 (1) Henry Cobb

5. 1843 Nov. 2 Harriet Cook, 1824-98

6. 1844 May 8 Clarissa Decker, 1828-89

Married before completion of Nauvoo Temple

7. 1844 Sept. Emily Dow Partridge, 1824-99 (1) Joseph Smith

8. 1844 Sept. 10 Clarissa Ross, 1814-57

9. 1844 Sept. 19 Louisa Beaman, 1815-50 (1) Joseph Smith

10. 1844 Oct. 3 Eliza Roxey Snow, 1804-87 (1) Joseph Smith

11. 1844 Oct. 3 Elizabeth Fairchild, 1828-1910 (2) James D. Lyman

(3) Joseph McMurray

(4) James Matthews

(5) W. L. Chastain

12. 1844 Oct. 8 Clarissa Blake, 1796-not known

13. 1844 Oct. 9 Rebecca Holman, 1824-49

14. 1844 Oct. 10 Diana Chase, 1827-86 (2) William M. Shaw

15. 1844 Oct. 31 Susannah Snively, 1815-92

16. 1844 Nov. 7 Olive Gray Frost, 1816-45

17. 1845 Jan. 15 Mary Ann Clark, 1816-not known (1) Mr. Powers

18. 1845 Jan. 16 Margaret Pierce, 1823-1907 (1) Morris Whitesides

19. 1845 Jan. 16 Mary Pierce, 1821-47

20. 1845 April 30 Emmeline Free, 1826-75

21. 1845 May 22 Mary Elizabeth Rollins, 1818-191 (1) Adam Lightner

(2) Joseph Smith

Married after completion of Nauvoo Temple

22. 1846 Jan. 14 Margaret Alley, 1825-52

23. 1846 Jan. 15 Olive Andrews, 1818-not known (1) Joseph Smith

24. 1846 Jan. 15 Emily Haws, 1823-not known (1) William Whitmarsh

25. 1846 Jan. 21 Martha Bowker, 1822-90

26. 1846 Jan. 21 Ellen Rockwood, 1829-66

27. 1846 Jan. 28 Jemima Angel, 1803-69 (1) Valentine Young

28. 1846 Jan. 28 Abigail Marks, 1781-1846 (1) Asa Works

29. 1846 Jan. 28 Phebe Morton, 1776-1854 (1) James W. Angel

30. 1846 Jan. 28 Cynthia Porter, 1783-not known (1) Mr. Weston

31. 1846 Jan. 31 Mary Eliza Nelson, 1812-85 (1) John P. Greene

(3) Bruce 1. Philips

32. 1846 Jan. 31 Rhoda Richards, 1784-1879 (1) Joseph Smith

33. 1846 Feb. 2 Zina Huntington, 1821-1901 (1) Henry Jacobs

34. 1846 Feb. 3 Amy Cecilia Cooper, 1804-not known not known

35. 1846 Feb. 3 Mary Ellen de la Montague, 1803-not known (1) James B. Woodward

36. 1846 Feb. 3 Julia Foster, 1811-91 (1) Jonathan Hampton

(3) Thomas Cole

37. 1846 Feb. 3 Abigail Harback, 1790-1849 (1) Mr. Hall

38. 1846 Feb. 3 Mary Ann Turley, 1827-1904 (2) John Cook

39. 1846 Feb. 6 Naamah Carter, 1821-1909 (1) John S. Twiss

40. 1846 Feb. 6 Nancy Cressy, 1780-1872 (1) Mr. Walker

Married while crossing the plains

41. 1847 Feb. 10 Jane Terry, 1819-47 (1) George Tarbox

(2) George W. Young

42. 1847 March 20 Lucy Bigelow, 1830-1905

43. 1847 March 20 Mary Jane Bigelow, 1827-68 (2) Horace Roberts

(3) Philander Bell

44. 1848 April 18 Sarah Malin, 1804-58

Married in Utah: 1850's

45. 1852 Oct. 3 Eliza Burgess, 1827-1915

46. 1852 Dec. 16 Mary Oldfield, 1793--1875 (1) Eli Kelsey

47. before 1853 Eliza Babcock, 1828-68 (2) Dominucus Carter

(3) John Groves

48. 1855 June 10 Catherine Reese, 1804-60 (1) Zepheniah Clawson

49. 1856 March 14 Harriet Barney, 1830-1911 (1) W.H.H. Sagers

Married in Utah: 1860's

50. 1863 Jan, 24 Amelia Folsom, 1838-1910

51. 1865 Jan. 8 Mary Van Cott, 1844-84 (1) James T. Cobb

52. 1868 April 7 Ann Eliza Webb, 1844-not known (1) James L. Dee

(3) Moses R. Deming

53. 1869 July 3 Elizabeth Jones, 1814-95 (1) David T. Lewis

(2) Dan Jones

Married in Utah: 1870's

54. 1870 May 8 Lydia Farnsworth, 1808-97 (1) Elijah Mayhew

55. 1872 Dec. 8 Hannah Tapfield, 1807-86 (1) Thomas O. King

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/b...

9. Patty Bartlett (Sessions) (Smith) (Parry), 1795-1892, married Joseph Smith polyandrously on March 9, 1842, at age forty-seven. The mother of Sylvia Sessions, Patty was famous as a frontier midwife and diarist. She married David Sessions in 1812, lived with him in Missouri, Nauvoo, and Utah, and bore him eight children; he died on August 11, 1850, in Salt Lake City. She then married John Parry for time in 1851; he died in 1868. She moved from Salt Lake City to Bountiful in 1872.

Parents:Enoch Bartlett and Anna Hall

Born:February 4, 1795, Bethel, Maine

Died:December 14, 1893, Bountiful, Utah

Marriage to Joseph Smith:March 9, 1842, Nauvoo, Illinois

Other Marriages:David Sessions, June 28, 1812, Newry, Maine

John Perry, March 27, 1852, Salt Lake City, Utah

Children:

1. Perrigrine Sessions, June 14, 1814, Newry, Maine

2. Sylvannus Sessions, June 5, 1816, Newry, Maine

3. Amanda Sessions, March 19, 1817, Newry, Maine

4. Sylvia Porter Session, July 31, 1818, Newry, Maine

5. Asa Sessions, about 1819, Newry, Maine

6. Anna B. Sessions, March 21, 1820, Newry, Maine

7. David Sessions, Jr., May 9, 1823, Newry, Maine

8. Anna B. Sessions, March 16, 1825, Newry, Maine

9. Bartlett Sessions, August 1, 1827, Newry, Maine

10. Amanda Sessions, March 19, 1837, Far West, Missouri

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olymp...
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Mormonism's Greatest Downfall
Thursday, Apr 30, 2009, at 08:29 AM
Original Author(s): Ray A
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Is polygamy. This is the one "doctrine" that marks Joseph Smith, IMO, as a probable imposter. It is not only contrary to societal values, but even to common sense. And according to the Book of Mormon, it is "an abomination". Why? Because it is manipulative, abusive and controlling, even when "consent" is given (bear Emma in mind here, and her "choices"). All I can say is that if the founder of Mormonism really did produce this book, the Book of Mormon, then he had a serious case of schizophrenia.

It also cankers Mormons. Imagine them railing against masturbation, while revering a "prophet" who actively stole other men's wives from them. What manner of sickness is this? Some kind of "spiritual sickness"?

I can think of few things more grievious than coaxing another man's wife or partner away. Yet this is what Joseph Smith and Brigham Young did - too many times to count. Yet if one masturbates - he/she is "going to hell". I'm speechless.

Apparently, stealing another man's wife is acceptable to further the ideal that "happiness is the purpose and design of existence" (bugger those "unworthy" of the women they married, all in Joseph's "cause" of "uniting real Celestial soulmates").

Those who defend polygamy are spineless hypocrites. On the one hand preaching "morality", then on the other having no qualms about splitting up husband and wife, as happened in the case of Henry Jacobs, "in the name of God".

How can anyone justify this?
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FARMS Admits That Joseph Smith Had Sex With Eight Plural Wives
Wednesday, May 6, 2009, at 08:42 AM
Original Author(s): Randy Jordan
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
This is a response to a FARMS critique by Gregory L. Smith to Signature Books author George D. Smith's book "Nauvoo Polygamy."

http://www.signaturebooks.com/pluralm...

Despite his talking in circles and showing little consistency in his arguments, it's nice to see a FARMS apologist admit that at least some of Joseph Smith's plural relationships included sexual relations. This is refreshing because some Mopologists are currently citing DNA tests to show that Smith didn't sire certain children. For us Ex-Mos and critics, the mere fact that Smith had sex with other women, whether it be 8 or 28, indicates that getting to have sex with lots of women was a major driving force for the practice. That, of course, dashes Mopologist Van Hale's assertions which he made on his radio show a few years ago:

"In my forty years of looking very closely at polygamy, it's been a subject that has been of some interest to me, there's not a single instance where I have encountered what, uh, the speculations that have been presented, uh, far and wide throughout the history of the LDS faith about polygamy, that polygamy was about, uh, proving a promiscuous sexual uh, opportunity, uh, increase, uh, sexual opportunities to Joseph Smith and other polygamists, that is simply not, well, there are those that say Joseph Smith wanted to have sex with beautiful women so this was the reason for it. But the fact is, all of the teaching and doctrine and philosophy and theology about polygamy had to do, uh, all ran along different lines. And to tell you the conclusion that it was a sexual matter in their minds rather than a matter of having to do with, uh, a restoration of an ancient practice, and uh, the opportunity of providing, uh, a good, uh, husband for, uh, a number of different, for, uh, a larger body of good women."

I chuckled over the author's description of Nauvoo as a "polygamy town." Like, "Yes, chillrun, some pioneer towns were cow towns, some were mining towns, some were railroad towns, and some were polygamy towns."

I also appreciate the author's emphasis on polygamy being a major factor in Joseph Smith's death, a point which church writers routinely suppress or ignore. That's something that I came to realize early in my studies about 12 years ago, and it's nice to see a major historical work reminding us of it. My favorite paragraph in the article:
The Church's current Melchizedek Priesthood/Relief Society Manual, Teachings of the Prophet: Joseph Smith, 2008-09, similarly neglects plural marriage. The Nauvoo Expositor, which blew the whistle on polygamy, is dismissed as "an anti-Mormon newspaper that slandered the Prophet and other Saints." How polygamy played out in the lives of the Mormon leaders is left unaddressed. The manual begins with a disclaimer that it will "not discuss plural marriages." The disclaimer itself is an improvement over the utter absence of even the word polygamy from prior church manuals, and if Gregory Smith perceives in this a thawing in the reticence regarding the topic, then maybe there is reason for optimism; if the reviewer can produce an official or even semi-official acknowledgment that polygamy was the root cause of the martyrdom, this would be a significant contribution to the discussion.
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Seven Major Problems With Plural Marriage Being Of God
Monday, Jun 22, 2009, at 08:52 AM
Original Author(s): Lost
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
1. Why was free agency NOT a component of plural marriage when arguably every other foundational church doctrine is?

2. Why did angels with drawn sword only appear to Joseph and not his wives? Why didn't other men report that angels came after them with drawn swords, too? Surely at least a few men would have had to be persuaded, right??

3. Why were the women not consulted or engaged in the plural marriage decision other than for a "YES" or "NO" response? And "NO" coming with horrible consequences? Isn't this a form of blackmail? Where is their free agency? It seems like a form of religous rape...

4. Wouldn't marrying one woman set the precedent of plural marriage? Why so many...what number prevents the "angel with drawn sword" from showing up? Is there a quota?

5. Why was there a need for secrecy? Every time you do something in secret, history shows that pain, suffering and misuderstanding quickly follow. And why take away the law of plural marriage if it was an eternal concept??? If the "work" was so important that it needed to be done on the earth in the first place, and so important the the prophet has to be chased by an angel with a drawn sword threatening to kill him if he doesn't start doing it, then why isn't that requirement still valid and urgent?

6. There were several instances where a father's salvation was assured through a daughter's marriage to Joseph Smith. How does this apply when one considers the articles of faith...which says something very different about our salvation?

7. Why was plural marriage hidden from some of the common law wives? What about their consent to the new union? If they hadn't been consulted, wasn't that adultery?
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More Evidence Of Joseph Smith's Sexual Predation Of Girls
Tuesday, Jun 23, 2009, at 09:01 AM
Original Author(s): Cdnxmo
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
More evidence of Joseph Smith's sexual predation is the heart-wrenching story of Lucy Walker. The Walker family arrived in Nauvoo in the spring of 1841 and by January 1842, Lucy’s mother had contracted and died of malaria, leaving her husband, John, with 10 children to care for. In the family’s time of grief and need for each other, what did JS do? He broke up the Walker family by sending John away on a two-year mission to the eastern states and Lucy’s siblings to live in different members’ homes. He saved 15-year-old Lucy for his house and subsequently informed the lonely and vulnerable girl, “I have a message for you, I have been commanded of God to take another wife, and you are the woman.” Lucy recorded, “My astonishment knew no bounds. This announcement was indeed a thunderbolt to me.” (ref. http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/23-...).

To coax Lucy to agree to become his plural wife, he told her that doing so “would prove an everlasting blessing to my father’s house.” (Ibid.) What Mormon girl grieving for her deceased mother, longing for her father, and separated from her siblings would deny “an everlasting blessing” to her father and his family?

The psychological trauma that JS put Lucy through was made clear by her words of prayer: “Oh that the grave would kindly receive me that I might find rest on the bosom of my dear mother...Why – Why Should I be chosen from among thy daughters, Father I am only a child in years and experience. No mother to council; no father near to tell me what to do, in this trying hour. Oh let this bitter cup pass. And thus I prayed in the agony of my soul.” (Ibid.)

JS told Lucy that the marriage would have to be secret. He then intensified the psychological pressure by giving her an ultimatum: “It is a command of God to you. I will give you untill to-morrow to decide this matter. If you reject this message the gate will be closed forever against you.” (Ibid.)

Lonely and wounded psychologically and emotionally, Lucy agreed to marry JS. She recalled, “Emma Smith was not present and she did not consent to the marriage; she did not know anything about it at all.” (Ibid.) Lucy did not know that JS was violating a direct commandment from the Lord – “and the first give her consent” – by secretly marrying her.

Of all the females in Nauvoo that JS could have approached about becoming his latest plural wife, he targeted, isolated and manipulated an inexperienced and highly vulnerable teenage girl young enough to be his daughter.

What kind of church leader would treat girls and women in such a manipulative and abusive manner? One drunk on his own ecclesiastical power.

Sandra Tanner's videotaped presentation alerted me to this infamous aspect - one of so many - of Mormonism's history (ref. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=153jwQ...)
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Joseph Smith's "Modus Operandi" As A Sexual Predator
Monday, Aug 24, 2009, at 07:57 AM
Original Author(s): Baura
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Joseph Smith's "courtship" of young Emily Partridge shows his modus operandi in "grooming" young girls into "plural marriage." It is the same modus operandi that sexual predators use. The following [except for the numbered "sexual predator techniques"] is from "In Sacred Lonliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith" by Todd Compton [Mormon in good standing], pp. 408-10. Compton quotes from Emily's own account, done later when the Utah LDS church was trying to prove to the RLDS that polygamy actually came from Joseph and was not invented by Brigham Young.

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[(1) Get the victim alone and ask suggestive, leading questions to feel her out: (2) Establish a "special relationship" and swear the victim to secrecy. -Baura's note]

"When I was eighteen years Joseph said to me one day, 'Emily, if you will not betray me, I will tell you something for your benefit.' Of course I would keep his secret, but no opportunity offered for some time to say anything to me." Then Joseph offered to give her a letter--provided she would burn it after reading it. After private prayer, Emily decided it was not right to receive what she suspected might be a romantic letter form her host, employer, father figure, and spiritual leader. "he asked me if I wished the matter ended. I said I did."

....Emily felt especially troubled because Joseph forbade her to talk about his preliminary proposal with anyone--even Eliza [her sister -Baura's note] or her mother.

Next, Joseph evidently tested her ability to keep a secret through his older plural wife, Elizabeth Davis Durfee. Soon after Emily refused Joseph's letter, Elizabeth invited her and Eliza to her home one afternoon. There, Emily wrote, "She introduced the subject of spiritual wives as they called it in that day. She wondered if there was any truth in the report she heard. I thought I could tell her something that would make her open her eyes if I chose, but I did not choose to. I kept my own council and said nothing." . . . Later [Emily] learned that "Mrs. [Durfee] was a friend to plurality and knew all about it."

[(3) Prepare a time and place for the actual sexual activity with the victim. (4) If possible have others who are part of the sex ring help in drawing the victim in. -Baura's note]

[after describing how Emily is finally convinced to enter into "plural marriage" Compton states: -Baura's note]

"Mrs Durf-- came to me one day and said Joseph would like an opportunity to talk with me. I asked her if she knew what he wanted. She said she thought he wanted me for a wife. I was thirely [thoroughly] prepared for almost anything. I was to meet him in the evening at Mr. [Heber C. -Baura's note] Kimballs." . . .

[(5) If the victim is reluctant, eliminate possibilities of escape. -Baura's note]

Evidently Heber and Joseph did not want the Kimball children to suspect that a polygamous marriage was being solemnized and sent them to a neighbor, pretending to send Emily away, as well. "Br. Heber . . . said to me. Vilate is not at home, and you had better call another time, so I started for home as fast as I could go so as to get beyond being called back, for I still dreaded the interview." Despite her reported conversion to polygamy, at nineteen years old she was clearly a reluctant bride, but as she began to rush home, Heber Kimball followed: "Soon I heard Br. Kimball call, 'Emily, Emily' rather low but loud enough for me to hear." Even now Emily tried to ignore him and continued hurrying away: "I thought at first I would not go back and took no notice of his calling. But he kept calling and was about to overtake me so I stopped and went back with him."

[(6) Reassure the victim that everything you are doing is really OK but secret. -Baura's note]

Now the marriage took place:

"I cannot tell all Joseph said, but he said the Lord had commanded [him] to enter into plural marriage and had given me to him and although I had got badly frightened he knew I would yet have him. So he waited till the Lord told him. My mind was now prepared and would receive the principles. I do not think if I had not gone through with the ordeal I did that I could ever [have] gone off at night to meet him. But that was the only way [it could] be done then. Well I was married there and then. . . ."

So Joseph, thirty-seven, married this frightened, fatherless nineteen-year-old, whom he had not allowed to consult even her mother or older sister. According to Emily's later testimony in a law court, there was a sexual dimension to her marriage with Joseph. She testified that she "roomed" with him the night following the marriage and explicitly stated that she had "carnal intercourse" with him on a number of occasions.

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That's how it's done, Folks. Follow the prophet, follow the prophet, follow the prophet, he knows the way.
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Joseph Smith's Mother-Daughter Fetish
Thursday, Oct 15, 2009, at 07:49 AM
Original Author(s): Jamie
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Sylvia Porter Sessions married Joseph Smith on Feb. 8, 1842. She was the daughter of David Sessions and Patty Bartlett Sessions, who became Joseph Smith's tenth wife.

Patty Bartlett Sessions married Joseph Smith on Mar. 9, 1842. At the time of her marriage to Smith, she was already married to David Sessions, and their daughter Sylvia Porter Sessions was already the eighth wife of Joseph Smith.

Sylvia Sessions

Patty Bartlett Sessions, the wife of David Sessions, made it clear in her private journal that she was married to Joseph Smith for both "time" and "eternity":

"I was sealed to Joseph Smith by Willard Richards Mar 9, 1842, in Newel K. Whitney's chamber, Nauvoo, for time and all eternity...Sylvia my daughter was present when I was sealed to Joseph Smith." (Journal of Patty Sessions, as quoted in Intimate Disciple, Portrait of Willard Richards, 1957, p. 611)

Patty Sessions

Joseph Smith had at least one child with Sylvia.

"- Stake President Angus Cannon also testified: "I will now refer you to one case where it was said by the girl's grandmother that your father [Joseph Smith] has a daughter born of a plural wife. The girl's grandmother was Mother Sessions . . . She was the grand-daughter of Mother Sessions. That girl, I believe, is living today, in Bountiful, north of this city. I heard prest. Young, a short time before his death, refer to the report . . . The woman is now said to have a family of children, and I think she is still living." (Stake President Angus M. Cannon, statement of interview with Joseph III, 25-26, LDS archives.)

- Faithful Mormon and wife of Joseph Smith, Sylvia Sessions (Lyon), on her deathbed told her daughter, Josephine, that she (Josephine) was the daughter of Joseph Smith. Josephine testified: "She (Sylvia) then told me that I was the daughter of the Prophet Joseph Smith, she having been sealed to the Prophet at the time that her husband Mr. Lyon was out of fellowship with the Church." (Affidavit to Church Historian Andrew Jenson, 24 Feb. 1915)

Joe and Sylvia's child

You will notice here that Joseph Smith married Sylvia Porter Sessions/Lyon/Smith/Kimball/Clark and impregnated her with Joseph Rosetta Lyon while she was still married to Windsor Lyon. After bearing Joseph's child she bore two more children for Windsor Lyon.

Sylvia Porter Sessions (Lyon) (Smith) (Kimball) (Clark), 1818-82, married Joseph Smith polyandrously on February 8, 1842, at age twenty-three, and bore him one child, Josephine Lyon (Fisher), on February 8, 1844. Sylvia had married Windsor Lyon in 1838 and stayed with him for eleven years, bearing him four children, all of whom died as infants. He was excommunicated in Nauvoo in November 1842, due to a financial/legal conflict with Nauvoo Stake President William Marks, but was rebaptized in January 1846. Sylvia married Heber C. Kimball for time, polyandrously, on January 26, 1846, but did not go west with him, staying with Lyon. After Lyon's death in January 1849, she married a non-Mormon, Ezekiel Clark, in Iowa on January 1, 1850. She bore him three children (all of whom survived) but left him and came to Bountiful, Utah, in 1854.

Parents:David Sessions and Patty Bartlett

Born:July 31, 1818, Newry, Maine

Died:April 12, 1882, Bountiful, Utah

Marriage to Joseph Smith:about 1843

Other Marriages:Windsor Palmer Lyon, 1838, Far West, Missouri

Heber Chase Kimball, January 1846, Nauvoo, Illinois

Ezekiel Clark, January 1, 1850, Iowa City, Iowa

Children:

1. Marian Lyon, July 30, 1839, Nauvoo, Illinois

2. Philofreen Lyon, June 11, 1841, Nauvoo, Illinois

3. Asa Windsor Lyon, December 25, 1842, Nauvoo, Illinois

4. Josephine Rosetta Lyon, February 8, 1844, Nauvoo, Illinois

5. Byron Windsor Lyon, September 4, 1847, Iowa City, Iowa

6. David Carlos Lyon, August 8, 1848, Iowa City, Iowa

7. Perry Ezekiel Clark, February 8, 1851, Iowa City, Iowa

8. Phebe Jane Clark, September 1, 1852, Iowa City, Iowa

9. Martha Sylvia Clark, January 20, 1854, Iowa City, Iowa

See:

http://i4m.com/think/history/joseph_s...
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Take The Joseph Smith Quiz
Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010, at 08:24 AM
Original Author(s): Madiran
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
How many of these would your average TBM get correct?

QUIZ:

1. How many women did Joseph Smith marry while he was alive besides Emma? A: thirty-two.

2. How many of these women were older than him? A: five

3. How many of these women were in his peer group of 30-40 years of age? A: eight

4. How many of these women were 21-29 years of age when he married them? A: nine

5. How many were less than 20 years of age when he married them? A: eleven

6. How many were already married to other men when he married them? A: five

7. How many of these women filed affidavits stating their marriage to Joseph Smith included sexual intercourse? A: thirteen

8. How old was the youngest girl that he married? A: fourteen

9. What was her name? A: Helen Mar Kimball

10. Her birthday? A: August 28th, 1828

11. The date of her marriage to him? A: May 1843

12. His age on that date? A: thirty-eight

13. Would you let your fourteen year old daughter marry a thirty-eight year old man?

14. What kind of thirty-eight year old man would want to marry a 14 year old girl?

15. Number of references to his wives other than Emma on the JosephSmith.net website sponsored by the LDS Church? A: zero

16. Why zero?
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Revelation Regarding Plural Marriage To Sarah Whitney
Wednesday, Dec 29, 2010, at 12:32 PM
Original Author(s): Jod3:360
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Joseph Smith, 27 July 1842, Nauvoo, Illinois

(Unpublished Revelations 59)

Verily, thus saith the Lord unto my servant Newel K. Whitney,

2 The thing that my servant Joseph Smith has made known unto you and your family and which you have agreed upon is right in mine eyes,

3 And shall be crowned upon your heads with honour and immortality and eternal life to all your house, both old and young because of the lineage of my Priesthood, saith the Lord,

4 It shall be upon you and upon your children after you from generation to generation, by virtue of the holy promise which I now make unto you, saith the Lord.

5 These are the words which you shall pronounce upon my servant Joseph and your daughter Sarah Ann Whitney.

6 They shall take each other by the hand and you shall say,

7 You both mutually agree, calling them by name, to be each other's companion so long as you both shall live, preserving yourselves for each other and from all others, and also throughout all eternity, reserving only those rights which have been given to my servant Joseph by revelation and commandment and by legal authority in times past.

8 If you both agree to covenant and do this, then I give you Sarah Ann Whitney, my daughter, to Joseph Smith, to be his wife, to observe all the rights between you both that belong to that condition.

9 I do it in my own name and in the name of your wife, your mother, and in the name of my holy progenitors, by right of birth which is of priesthood, vested in me by revelation and commandment and promise of the living God, obtained through the holy Melchizedek, Jethro and other of the holy fathers commanding in the name of the Lord all those powers to concentrate in you and through to your posterity forever.

10 All these things I do in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that through this order he may be glorified and through the power of the anointing David may reign king over Israel, which shall hereafter be revealed.

11 Let immortality and eternal life henceforth be sealed upon your heads forever and ever.

Joseph Smith Collection, Church Historians Office
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Sarah Pratt, Jane Law And Joseph Smith
Monday, Mar 21, 2011, at 07:17 AM
Original Author(s): Jim Huston
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Doing a little research on Polygamy and put a first draft of this together.

Sarah Pratt and Joseph Smith - History of the Saints, pp. 228-231.

“Sister Pratt, the Lord has given you to me as one of my spiritual wives. I have the blessings of Jacob granted me, as God granted holy men of old, and as I have long looked upon you with favor, and an earnest desire of connubial bliss, I hope you will not repulse or deny me.”

SARAH PRATT REPLIED:

“And is that the great secret that I am not to utter? Am I called upon to break the marriage covenant, and prove recreant to my lawful husband! I never will…. I care not for the blessings of Jacob. I have one good husband, and that is enough for me…. “Joseph, if you ever attempt any thing of the kind with me again, I will make a full disclosure to Mr. Pratt on his return home. Depend upon it, I will certainly do it.”

JOSEPH SMITH RESPONDED:

“Sister Pratt, I hope you will not expose me, for if I suffer, all must suffer; so do not expose me. Will you promise me that you will not do it?”

SARAH PRATT:

“If you will never insult me again, I will not expose you unless strong circumstances should require it.”

SMITH:

“If you should tell, I will ruin your reputation, remember that.”

Nelson Winch Green, Fifteen Years among the Mormons: Being the Narrative of Mrs. Mary Ettie V. Smith, 1859, p. 31 “Sarah [Pratt] ordered the Prophet out of the house, and the Prophet used obscene language to her…”

Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. according to Brigham Young, Minutes of the Quorum of the Twelve, January 20, 1843, Brigham Young Collection “She [Sarah] lied about me. I never made the offer which she said I did. I will not advise you to break up your family – unless it were asked of me. Then I would council you to get a bill from your wife and marry a virtuous woman – and a new family but if you do not do it [I] shall never throw it in your teeth.”

Sarah Pratt, in Wilhelm Wyl, Mormon Portraits, 1886, pp. 62-63

“In his endeavors to ruin my [Sarah’s] character Joseph went so far as to publish an extra-sheet containing affidavits against my reputation. When this sheet was brought to me I discovered to my astonishment the names of two people on it, man and wife, with whom I had boarded for a certain time…. I went to their house; the man left the house hurriedly when he saw me coming. I found the wife and said to her rather excitedly: ‘What does it all mean?’ She began to sob. ‘It is not my fault’ said she. ‘Hyrum Smith came to our house, with the affidavits all written out, and forced us to sign them. ‘Joseph and the Church must be saved,’ said he. We saw that resistance was useless, they would have ruined us; so we signed the papers.”

- Apostle Jebediah M. Grant, Sunday Tabernacle Discourse, March 23, 1856, Journal History

“Br Orson Pratt is in trubble in consequence of his wife, hir feelings are so rought up that he dos not know whether his wife is wrong, or whether Josephs testimony and others are wrong and do lie and he deceived for 12 years or not; his is all but crazy about matters… we will not let Br. Orson go away from us he is too good a man to have a woman destroy him.”

New York Herald, September 14, 1877

“It is said that the Prophet admitted to [Orson] the attempt he made on his wife’s virtue, but that it was only done to see whether she was true to her absent husband.”

Jane Law and Joseph Smith

Apostle William Law, former counselor in the First Presidency, in Lyndon W. Cook, “William Law, Nauvoo Dissenter,” BYU Studies, v. 22, Winter 1982, p. 65

“[Joseph] ha[s] lately endeavored to seduce my wife, and ha[s] found her a virtuous woman.”

Apostle William Law, as quoted in Ann Eliza Young, Wife No. 9, 1876, p. 61

“The Prophet had made dishonorable proposals to [my] wife… under cover of his asserted ‘Revelation.’… [Smith told his wife Jane] the Lord had commanded that he should take plural wives, to add to his glory… [Joseph] asked her to give him half her love; she was at liberty to keep the other half for her husband.”

Apostle William Law, Salt Lake Tribune, January 20, 1887

“My wife would not speak evil of … anyone … without cause. Joseph is a liar and not she. That Smith admired and lusted after many men’s wives and daughters, is a fact, but they could not help that. They or most of them considered his admiration an insult, and treated him with scorn. In return for this scorn, he generally managed to blacken their reputations – see the case of… Mrs. Pratt, a good, virtuous woman.”

He really was a pig.
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Nancy Rigdon And Joseph Smith - What A Pig
Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011, at 07:10 AM
Original Author(s): Jim Huston
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Nancy Rigdon

Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner p 295 from letter George W. Robinson to James Arlington Bennett 7/27/1842 . cited in Bennett 245-247

Smith greeted her, ushered her into a private room, then locked the door. After swearing her to secrecy, Smith announced his “affection for her for several years and wished that she would be his….the Lord was well pleased with the matter. There was no sin it it whatever… but if she had any scruples of conscience about the matter, he would marry her privately.

Nancy Rigdon Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner from interview with Elders William H. and E. L. Kelly, cited in Smith and Smith, 4:452-453

Despite her tender age, she did not hesitate to express herself. The prophet's seductive behavior shocked her; she rebuffed him in a flurry of anger

Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner p 295 from Wickliffe Rigdon, Life Story of Sydney Rigdon, 164, Smith, flustered, beckoned Mrs. Hyde into the room to help win Nancy over. Hyde volunteered that she too was surprised upon first hearing the tenet, but was convinced it was true, and that “great exaltation would come to those who received and embraced it”

Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner p 295 from Wickliffe Rigdon , 28 july 1905 statement Incredulous, the feisty Nancy countered that “if she ever got married, she would marry a single man or not at all.

Not willing to take no for an answer, Smith later had a letter delivered to Nancy

Joseph Smith to Miss Nancy Rigdon, 11 April 1842 History of the Church, Vol. 5, p.134-136, See also "The Letter of the Prophet, Joseph Smith to Miss Nancy Rigdon," Joseph Smith Collection, LDS archives Happiness is the object and design of our existence; and will be the end thereof, if we pursue the path that leads to it; and this path is virtue, uprightness, faithfulness, holiness, and keeping all the commandments of God. But we cannot keep all the commandments without first knowing them, and we cannot expect to know all, or more than we now know unless we comply with or keep those we have already received. That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another.

God said, "Thou shalt not kill;" at another time He said "Thou shalt utterly destroy." This is the principle on which the government of heaven is conducted–by revelation adapted to the circumstances in which the children of the kingdom are placed. Whatever God requires is right, no matter what it is, although we may not see the reason thereof till long after the events transpire. If we seek first the kingdom of God, all good things will be added. So with Solomon: first he asked wisdom, and God gave it him, and with it every desire of his heart, even things which might be considered abominable to all who understand the order of heaven only in part, but which in reality were right because God gave and sanctioned by special revelation.

A parent may whip a child, and justly, too, because he stole an apple; whereas if the child had asked for the apple, and the parent had given it, the child would have eaten it with a better appetite; there would have been no stripes; all the pleasure of the apple would have been secured, all the misery of stealing lost.

This principle will justly apply to all of God's dealings with His children. Everything that God gives us is lawful and right; and it is proper that we should enjoy His gifts and blessings whenever and wherever He is disposed to bestow; but if we should seize upon those same blessings and enjoyments without law, without revelation, without commandment, those blessings and enjoyments would prove cursings and vexations in the end, and we should have to lie down in sorrow and wailings of everlasting regret. But in obedience there is joy and peace unspotted, unalloyed; and as God has designed our happiness–and the happiness of all His creatures, he never has–He never will institute an ordinance or give a commandment to His people that is not calculated in its nature to promote that happiness which He has designed, and which will not end in the greatest amount of good and glory to those who become the recipients of his law and ordinances. Blessings offered, but rejected, are no longer blessings, but become like the talent hid in the earth by the wicked and slothful servant; the proffered good returns to the giver; the blessing is bestowed on those who will receive and occupy; for unto him that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundantly, but unto him that hath not or will not receive, shall be taken away that which he hath, or might have had.

Be wise today; 'tis madness to defer: Next day the fatal precedent may plead. Thus on till wisdom is pushed out of time Into eternity.

Our heavenly Father is more liberal in His views, and boundless in His mercies and blessings, than we are ready to believe or receive; and, at the same time, is more terrible to the workers of iniquity, more awful in the executions of His punishments, and more ready to detect every false way, than we are apt to suppose Him to be. He will be inquired of by His children. He says: "Ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find;" but, if you will take that which is not your own, or which I have not given you, you shall be rewarded according to your deeds; but no good thing will I withhold from them who walk uprightly before me, and do my will in all things–who will listen to my voice and to the voice of my servant whom I have sent; for I delight in those who seek diligently to know my precepts, and abide by the law of my kingdom; for all things shall be made known unto them in mine own due time, and in the end they shall have joy.

Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner p 296 from George W. Robinson to James Arlington Bennett 7/27/1842, cited in Bennett, p246

When Sidney confronted Smith at the Rigdon home, the enraged father demanded an explanation of the prophet’s behavior. Smith “attempted to deny it at first, and faced [Nancy] down with the lie; ‘told the facts with so much earnestness, and the fact of a letter being present, which he had caused to be written to her, on the same subject, the day after the attempt made on her virtue,' that ultimately 'he could not withstand the testimony; he then and there acknowledged that every word of Miss Rigdon's testimony was true'.

Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner p 296 from George W. Robinson to James Arlington Bennett 7/27/1842, cited in Bennett, p246

Smith, after acknowledging his proposition, sought a way out of the crisis by claiming he had approached Nancy 'to ascertain whether she was virtuous or not, and took that course to learn the facts!'

Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner p 299 from S.M. Ellis (Nancy Rigdon’s son) letter to L. J. Nuffer

The bedeviling paradox for many regarding the Nancy Rigdon incident, is that while Smith's fame as a prophet of God makes the charges against him hard to believe, her steadfast reputation makes them difficult to dismiss

Sydney Rigdon: A Portrait of Religious excess by Van Wagoner p 299

Inevitably, Nancy Rigdon, Sarah Pratt, and Martha Brotherton saw their reputations impugned by an avalanche of slander. The prophet labeled Sarah a '[whore] from her mother's breast.' Martha Brotherton was branded a 'mean harlot.' while Nancy was tagged a 'poor miserable girl out of the very slough of prostitution'
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Josephs Successful And Unsuccessful Proposals To Church Leaders' Wives
Monday, Apr 4, 2011, at 09:05 AM
Original Author(s): Jod3:360
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
When the family organization was revealed from heaven–the patriarchal order of God, and Joseph began, on the right and the left, to add to his family, what a quaking there was in Israel. Says one brother to another, "Joseph says all covenants [previous marriages] are done away, and none are binding but the new covenants [marriage by priesthood sealing power]; now suppose Joseph should come and say he wanted your wife, what would you say to that?" "I would tell him to go to hell." This was the spirit of many in the early days of this Church. . . . What would a man of God say, who felt aright, when Joseph asked him for his money? [he would give it all willingly] Or if he came and said, "I want your wife?" "O yes," he would say, "here she is, there are plenty more" . . . Did the Prophet Joseph want every man's wife he asked for? He did not . . . the grand object in view was to try the people of God, to see what was in them. If such a man of God should come to me and say, "I want your gold and silver, or your wives," I should say, "Here they are, I wish I had more to give you, take all I have got." A man who has got the Spirit of God, and the light of eternity in him, has no trouble about such matters." - Apostle Jedediah M. Grant, second counselor to Brigham Young and father of President Heber J. Grant, sermon delivered on 19 February 1854 (JD 2: 13-14)

Joseph Smith's Failed Proposals to Married Women

John Taylor's Wife, Leonora "The Prophet went to the home of President Taylor, and said to him, 'Brother John, I WANT LEONORA.'" Taylor was stunned, but after walking the floor all night, the obedient elder said to Smith, "If GOD wants Leonora He can have her." Woodruff concluded: "That was all the prophet was after, to see where President Taylor stood in the matter, and said to him, Brother Taylor, I dont want your wife, I just wanted to know just where you stood." - Prophet Wilford Woodruff, John Mills Whitaker Journal, Nov. 1 1890; emphasis in original

Heber C. Kimball's Wife, Vilate “During the summer of 1841, shortly after Heber's return from England, he was introduced to the doctrine of plural marriage directly through a startling test-a sacrifice which shook his very being and challenged his faith to the ultimate. He had already sacrificed homes, possessions, friends, relatives, all worldly rewards, peace, and tranquility for the Restoration. Nothing was left to place on the altar save his life, his children, and his wife. Joseph demanded for himself what to Heber was the unthinkable, his Vilate. Totally crushed spiritually and emotionally, Heber touched neither food nor water for three days and three nights and continually sought confirmation and comfort from God." Finally, after "some kind of assurance," Heber took Vilate to the upper room of Joseph's store on Water Street. The Prophet wept at this act of faith, devotion, and obedience. Joseph had never intended to take Vilate. It was all a test." - Biography of Heber C. Kimball, "Heber C. Kimball, Mormon Patriarch and Pioneer." By Stanley B. Kimball, page 93.

Orson Pratt's Wife, Sarah "Sometime in late 1840 or early 1841, Joseph Smith confided to his friend that he was smitten by the "amiable and accomplished" Sarah Pratt and wanted her for "one of his spiritual wives, for the Lord had given her to him as a special favor for his faithfulness" (emphasis in original). Shortly afterward, the two men took some of Bennett's sewing to Sarah's house. During the visit, as Bennett describes it, Joseph said, "Sister Pratt, the Lord has given you to me as one of my spiritual wives. I have the blessings of Jacob granted me, as God granted holy men of old, and as I have long looked upon you with favor, and an earnest desire of connubial bliss, I hope you will not repulse or deny me." "And is that the great secret that I am not to utter," Sarah replied. "Am I called upon to break the marriage covenant, and prove recreant to my lawful husband! I never will." She added, "I care not for the blessings of Jacob. I have one good husband, and that is enough for me." But according to Bennett, the Prophet was persistent. Finally Sarah angrily told him on a subsequent visit, "Joseph, if you ever attempt any thing of the kind with me again, I will make a full disclosure to Mr. Pratt on his return home. Depend upon it, I will certainly do it." "Sister Pratt," the Prophet responded, "I hope you will not expose me, for if I suffer, all must suffer; so do not expose me. Will you promise me that you will not do it?" "If you will never insult me again," Sarah replied, "I will not expose you unless strong circumstances should require it." "If you should tell," the Prophet added, "I will ruin your reputation, remember that." (Article "Sarah M. Pratt" by Richard A. Van Wagoner, Dialogue, Vol.19, No.2, p.72. Also see: http://www.xmission.com/~country/reason/spratt.htm)

William Law's Wife, Jane "William Law, a former counselor in the First Presidency, wrote in his 13 May 1844 diary: "[Joseph] ha[s] lately endeavored to seduce my wife, and ha[s] found her a virtuous woman" The Laws elaborated on this in a public meeting shortly thereafter. "The Prophet had made dishonorable proposals to [my] wife . . . under cover of his asserted 'Revelation,' " Law stated. He further explained that Joseph came to the Law home in the middle of the night when William was absent and told Jane that "the Lord had commanded that he should take spiritual wives, to add to his glory." Law then called on his wife to corroborate what he had said. She did so and further explained that Joseph had "asked her to give him half her love; she was at liberty to keep the other half for her husband" Jane refused the Prophet, and according to William Law's 20 January 1887 letter to the Salt Lake Tribune, Smith then considered the couple apostates. "Jane had been speaking evil of him for a long time . . . slandered him, and lied about himwithout cause," Law reported Smith as saying. "My wife would not speak evil of . . . anyone . . . without cause," Law asserted. "Joseph is the liar and not she. That Smith admired and lusted after many men's wives and daughters, is a fact, but they could not help that. They or most of them considered his admiration an insult, and treated him with scorn. In return for this scorn, he generally managed to blacken their reputations--see the case of . . . Mrs. Pratt, a good, virtuous woman." ("Mormon Polygamy" by Richard S. Van Wagoner, page 44)

Hiram Kimball's wife, Sarah Sarah M. Kimball, a prominent Nauvoo and Salt Lake City Relief Society leader was also approached by the Prophet in early 1842 despite her solid 1840 marriage to Hiram Kimball. Sarah later recalled that "Joseph Smith taught me the principle of marriage for eternity, and the doctrine of plural marriage. He said that in teaching this he realized that he jeopardized his life; but God had revealed it to him many years before as a privilege with blessings, now God had revealed it again and instructed him to teach with commandment, as the Church could travel [progress] no further without the introduction of this principle." ("LDS Biographical Encyclopedia" By Elder Andrew Jensen, 6:232, 1887) Sarah Kimball, like Sarah Pratt, was committed to her husband, and refused the Prophet's invitation, asking that he "teach it to someone else." Although she kept the matter quiet, her husband and Smith evidently had difficulties over Smith's proposal. On 19 May 1842, at a Nauvoo City Council meeting, Smith jotted down and then "threw across the room" a revelation to Kimball which declared that "Hiram Kimball has been insinuating evil, and formulating evil opinions" against the Prophet, which if he does not desist from, he "shall be accursed." Sarah remained a lifetime member of the Church and a lifelong wife to Hiram Kimball. - "LDS Biographical Encyclopedia" By Elder Andrew Jensen, 6:232, 1887, Official History of the Church 5: 12-13,

Sidney Rigdon's daughter, Nancy When Smith proposed marriage in April 1842 to Nancy Rigdon, nineteen-year-old daughter of his close friend and counselor, Sidney Rigdon, he reportedly took her into a room, "locked the door, and then stated to her that he had had an affection for her for several years, and wished that she should be his." Nancy refused him, saying she would only marry a single man. The following day Smith explained in a letter to her: "That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another." He added, "Whatever God requires is right, no matter what it is, although we may not see the reason thereof." She remained unconvinced. Nancy, her brother John, and her brother-in-law George W. Robinson testified in sworn affidavits that the Joseph Smith had proposed "spiritual marriage" to her. Smith publicly denied the accusations. ("The Letter of the Prophet, Joseph Smith to Miss Nancy Rigdon," Joseph Smith Collection, LDS archives; History of The Church 5:134-36. Sidney Rigdon Biography, Richard S. Van Wagoner, Chapter 21)

Joseph Smith's Successful Proposals to Married Women

Adam Lightner's wife, Mary Mary Elizabeth Rollins, already married to non-Mormon Adam Lightner since 11 August 1835, was one of the first women to accept a polyandrous proposal from Joseph Smith. "He was commanded to take me for a wife," she wrote in a 21 November 1880 letter to Emmeline B. Wells. "I was his, before I came here," she added in an 8 February 1902 statement. Brigham Young secretly sealed the two in February 1842 when Mary was eight months pregnant with her son George Algernon Lightner. She lived with her real husband Adam Lightner until his death in Utah many years later. In her 1880 letter to Emmeline B. Wells, Mary explained: "I could tell you why I stayed with Mr. Lightner. Things the leaders of the Church do not know anything about. I did just as Joseph told me to do, as he knew what troubles I would have to contend with." She added on 23 January 1892 in a letter to John R. Young: "I could explain some things in regard to my living with Mr. L[ightner] after becoming the Wife of Another (Joseph Smith), which would throw light, on what now seems mysterious--and you would be perfectly satisfied with me. I write this; because I have heard that it had been commented on to my injury" (Lightner, Mary E. Statement. 8 Feb. 1902; Lightner to Emmeline B. Wells, 21 Nov. 1880; Lightner to John R. Young, 25 Jan. 1892. George A. Smith Papers. Special Collections. University of Utah)

Orson Hyde's Wife, Marinda Marinda Nancy Johnson, sister of Apostles Luke and Lyman Johnson, married Orson Hyde in 1834. A year before Hyde returned from Jerusalem in 1843, Marinda was sealed to Joseph Smith in April of 1842, though she lived with Orson until their divorce in 1870. Many suspect Joseph Smith was the actual father of Marinda's son Frank Henry who was born on 23 Jan 1845, for two reasons. First, because Marinda had been the polygamous wife of Smith since Apr 1842. Second, because Smith had sent her first husband, Orson Hyde, on a mission to Washington on April 4, 1844 "immediately" after a meeting with Joseph Smith (History of the Church, pg. 286). The gestation period for a human is on average 266 days (not 9 months), which would date the conception to early May 1844. Of course, 266 is an average date and the figures vary. To give you an idea of the range, only four percent of pregnancies are actually carried two weeks or more beyond the average time (Guttmacher, 1983). Frank Henry was born on January 23, 1845. Orson Hyde left for Washington April 4, 1844. The difference in these two dates is 294 days! That is almost a month longer than expected and is basically physiologically impossible, especially considering that Orson Hyde had not returned to Nauvoo until August 6, 1844. (Andrew Jenson, Church Chronology, August 6, 1844) Marinda later divorced Orson Hyde and voiced her disgust of polygamy.

Windsor Lyon's Wife, Sylvia Sylvia P. Sessions, married to Windsor P. Lyon, gave birth to a daughter on 8 February 1844, less than five months before Joseph Smith's martyrdom. That daughter, Josephine, related in a 24 February 1915 statement that prior to her mother's death in 1882 "she called me to her bedside and told me that her days on earth were about numbered and before she passed away from mortality she desired to tell me something which she had kept as an entire secret from me and all others but which she now desired to communicate to me." Josephine's mother told her she was "the daughter of the Prophet Joseph Smith, she having been sealed to the Prophet at the time that her husband Mr. Lyon was out of fellowship with the Church." (Affidavit to Church Historian Andrew Jenson, 24 Feb. 1915)

Norman Buell's Wife, Prescindia Prescindia D. Huntington, a faithful Mormon and married woman in Nauvoo, was also a polyandrous wife of Joseph Smith. Prescindia had married Norman Buell in 1827 and had two sons by him before joining Mormonism in 1836. She was secretly sealed to Joseph Smith by her brother Dimick on 11 December 1841, though she continued to live with her husband Buell until 1846, when she left him to marry Heber C. Kimball. In a "letter to my eldest grand-daughter living in 1880," she explained that Norman Buell had left the Church in 1839, but that "the Lord gave me strength to Stand alone and keep the faith amid heavy persecution." (Mormon Polygamy: A History" by Richard S. Van Wagoner, page 44)

Prescindia, who was Normal Buell's wife and simultaneously a "plural wife" of the Prophet Joseph Smith, said that she did not know whether her husband Norman "or the Prophet was the father of her son, Oliver." And a glance at a photo of Oliver shows a strong resemblance to Emma Smith's boys. (Mary Ettie V. Smith, "Fifteen Years Among the Mormons", page 34; Fawn Brodie "No Man Knows My History" pages 301-302, 437-39)

Lucinda Morgan Harris, wife of Far West high councilor George Harris, admitted in 1842 that she had been Smith's "mistress since four years," and it is known that she visited Smith while he was incarcerated in Liberty Jail in 1838.

Henry Jacob's Wife, Zina Prescindia's twenty-year-old sister Zina was living in the Joseph Smith home when Elder Henry B. Jacobs married her in March 1841. According to family records, when Zina and Henry asked Joseph Smith why he had not honored them by performing their marriage, Smith replied that "the Lord had made it known to him that [Zina] was to be his Celestial wife." Believing that "whatever the Prophet did was right, without making the wisdom of God's authorities bend to the reasoning of any man," the devout Elder Jacobs consented for six-months-pregnant Zina to be sealed to Joseph Smith 27 October 1841. Some have suggested that the Jacobs's marriage was "unhappy" and that the couple had separated before her sealing to Joseph Smith. But, though sealed to Joseph Smith for eternity, Zina continued her connubial relationship with her husband Henry Jacobs. On 2 February 1846, pregnant with Henry's second son, Zina was re-sealed by proxy to the murdered Joseph Smith and in that same session was “sealed for time" to Brigham Young. Faithful Henry B. Jacobs stood by as an official witness to both ceremonies. ("History of Henry Bailey Jacobs." By Ora J. Cannon, page 5-7. also see "Recollections of Zina D. Young" by Mary Brown Firmage)

Zina and Henry lived together as husband and wife until the Mormon pioneers reached Mt. Pisgah, Iowa. At this temporary stop on the pioneer trail, Brigham Young announced that "it was time for men who were walking in other men's shoes to step out of them. Brother Jacobs, the woman you claim for a wife does not belong to you. She is the spiritual wife of brother Joseph, sealed up to him. I am his proxy, and she, in this behalf, with her children, are my property. You can go where you please, and get another, but be sure to get one of your own kindred spirit" (Hall 1853, 43-44). President Young then called Jacobs on a mission to England. Witnesses to his departure commented that he was so emotionally ill they had to "put him on a blanket and carry him to the boat to get him on his way". ("Short Sketch of the Life of Henry B. Jacobs" By Ora J. Cannon)

Henry returned from his mission and settled in California. But he was still in love with his wife Zina, now a plural wife of Brigham Young. Henry's letters to his wife Zina were heartrending. On 2 September 1852 he wrote: "O how happy I should be if I only could see you and the little children, bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh." "I am unhappy," Henry lamented, "there is no peace for poor me, my pleasure is you, my comfort has vanished.... O Zina, can I ever, will I ever get you again, answer the question please." In an undated Valentine he added: Zina my mind never will change from Worlds without Ends, no never, the same affection is there and never can be moved I do not murmur nor complain of the handlings of God no verily, no but I feel alone and no one to speak to, to call my own. I feel like a lamb without a mother, I do not blame any person or persons, no--May the Lord our Father bless Brother Brigham and all purtains unto him forever. Tell him for me I have no feelings against him nor never had, all is right according to the Law of the Celestial Kingdom of our god Joseph [Smith]." ("Short Sketch of the Life of Henry B. Jacobs" By Ora J. Cannon) It was the rule rather than the exception for Smith to encourage a polyandrous wife to remain with her legal husband. Faithful Mormon Joseph Kingsbury even wrote that he served as a surrogate husband for Joseph Smith: "I according to Pres. Joseph Smith and council and others, I agreed to stand by Sarah Ann Whitney [sealed to Smith 27 July 1843] as though I was supposed to be her husband and a pretended marriage for the purpose of shielding them from the enemy and for the purpose of bringing out the purposes of God." (Elder Joseph Kingsbury, "History of Joseph Kingsbury Written by His Own Hand," page 5, Utah State Historical Society
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Adultery? Yes. Fanny Alger Age 16 Is Joseph's First Known Plural Wife
Wednesday, May 16, 2012, at 11:09 AM
Original Author(s): Whitmer College
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
After it was discovered that Joseph had an affair with his 16 year old housemaide, members of the church wanted to replace Joseph Smith with David Whitmer as leader of the church.

Fanny Alger is Joseph's first known plural wife, whom he came to know in Kirtland during early 1833 when she, at the age of 16, stayed at his home as a housemaid. Described as "a varry nice and Comly young woman," according to Benjamin Johnson, Fanny lived with the Smith family from 1833 to 1836. Martin Harris, one of the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon, recalled that the prophet's "servant girl" claimed he had made "improper proposals to her, which created quite a talk amongst the people." Mormon Fanny Brewer similarly reported "much excitement against the Prophet[involving] an unlawful intercourse between himself and a young orphan girl residing in his family and under his protection." Former Mormon apostle William McLellin later wrote that Emma Smith substantiated the Smith-Alger affair. According to McLellin, Emma was searching for her husband and Alger one evening when through a crack in the barn door she saw "him and Fanny in the barn together alone" on the hay mow. McLellin, in a letter to one of Smith's sons, added that the ensuing confrontation between Emma and her husband grew so heated that Rigdon, Frederick G. Williams, and Oliver Cowdery had to mediate the situation. After Emma related what she had witnessed, Smith, according to McLellin, "confessed humbly, and begged forgiveness. Emma and all forgave him." While Oliver Cowdery may have forgiven his cousin Joseph Smith, he did not forget the incident. Three years later, when provoked by the prophet, Cowdery countered by calling the Fanny Alger episode "a dirty, nasty, filthy affair." Chauncey Webb recounts Emmas later discovery of the relationship: Emma was furious, and drove the girl, who was unable to conceal the consequences of her celestial relation with the prophet, out of her house. At least one account indicates that Fanny became pregnant. Chauncy G. Webb, Smith's grammar teacher, later reported that when the pregnancy became evident, Emma Smith drove Fanny from her home (Wyl 1886, 57). Webb's daughter, Ann Eliza Webb Young, a divorced wife of Brigham Young, remembered that Fanny was taken into the Webb home on a temporary basis (Young 1876, 66-67). Fanny stayed with relatives in nearby Mayfield until about the time Joseph fled Kirtland for Missouri. Fanny left Kirtland in September 1836 with her family. Though she married non-Mormon Solomon Custer on 16 November 1836 and was living in Dublin City, Indiana, far from Kirtland, her name still raised eyebrows. Fanny Brewer, a Mormon visitor to Kirtland in 1837, observed "much excitement against the Prophet [involving] an unlawful intercourse between himself and a young orphan girl residing in his family and under his protection"

-- Sep 24, 1834 -- Article on Marriage read at General Assembly stating that "...one man should have one wife, except for death."

-- Aug 17, 1835 -- Oliver Cowdery and Sidney Rigdon presented a revised set of "inspired documents" before a special Conference of the Church, which approved the collection for printing. Section 101, placed almost at the end of the book, gave instructions on purely monogamous marriage. The text stated that the "Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication, and polygamy..." Joseph Smith was out of town when the Conference accepted the collection as being the Doctrine and Covenants of the Church. As no known allegations of Mormon polygamy had been published at this time, it appears that the "reproach" came from within the Church itself.

-- Oct 17, 1835 -- Joseph Smith's journal entry states: "Called my family together arranged my domestick concerns and dismissed my boarders." This may refer to his first plural wife, sixteen-year-old Fanny Alger, with whom his relationship has been causing rumors and dissension among Joseph's inner circle, leaving his home to live apart from him.

-- Nov 24, 1835 -- While illegally performing a marriage for Newel Knight and Lydia Goldthwaite (still legally married to another man), Smith publicly announces his view of theocratic ethics: "I have done it by the authority of the holy Priesthood and the Gentile law has no power to call me to an account for it."

-- late Aug 1836 -- In Joseph Smith's absence some members call for David Whitmer to assume leadership of the Church. A similar situation happened during Smith's trip to Canada in July of 1837. Accounts of these two events are difficult to sort one from another. The earlier attempt to unseat Smith may possibly have been related to his affair with Miss Fanny Alger.

-- late Aug 1836 -- Joseph Smith asked Levi Hancock to take Fanny Alger to Missouri. She and her family left the following month, and after a lengthy stop-over in Indiana (for unclear reasons, perhaps her pregnancy), reached Missouri a year later.

-- Nov 16, 1836 -- Fanny Alger (Smith) marries Solomon Custer in Wayne county, Indiana.

-- Apr 28, 1837 -- The presidents of seventies meet and declare for publication that "we will have no fellowship whatever with any Elder belonging to the quorum of the Seventies who is guilty of polygamy or any offense of the kind."

-- Aug. 1837 -- David W Patten: Joseph Smith Jr. "slapped him in the face and kicked him out of the yard" Aug. 1837 when David W Patten asked if Fanny Alger was Joseph Smith Jr. 's plural wife

-- early Nov 1837 -- Oliver Cowdery confronted Joseph Smith over the matter of Smith's having carried on sexual relations with Miss Fanny Alger in Kirtland. Smith called in witnesses and shook hands with Cowdery, their both having agreed "to drop every past thing."

-- Nov 6, 1837 -- Oliver Cowdery: Allowed by leading quorums 6 Nov. 1837 to resolve difficulty with Joseph Smith Jr. over polygamy without involving the church council

-- Jan 13, 1838 -- Luke Johnson arrests Joseph Sr. for performing a marriage without proper authority but also helps him escape. Joseph Sr. hides at Oliver Snow's for two or three weeks.

-- (Sun) Jan 21, 1838 -- Oliver Cowdery confronts Smith with charge of adultery with Fanny Alger. (Perhaps by letter, as Smith had not yet arrived in Missouri)

-- Jan 21, 1838 -- Oliver Cowdery: "A dirty, nasty, filthy affair of his and Fanny Alger's was talked over in which I strictly declared that I had never deviated from the truth." Oliver's letterbook

-- 1838 July -- The Church's Elders' Journal said "... on account of the unfaithfulness of Oliver Cowdery ... and [his] opposition to our beloved brother Joseph Smith, jr ... [he has] been excluded from fellowship." It printed a statement from the husband of William Morgan's widow saying Cowdery discussed the "crime (adultery/polygamy) alledged against" Joseph Smith, Jr. in her house. It also said Mormons did not have more than one wife and that Joseph Smith was a money-digger. (Joseph Smith may have married Lucinda in June 1838, evidence for this is not solid)

Sources: Whitmercollege: http://www.whitmercollege.com/adulter...
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Joseph Smith's Polygamy? The Topic Was Avoided
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2012, at 07:18 AM
Original Author(s): Mercyngrace
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
The impression I had as a kid was that Joseph Smith received the revelation in DandC 132 but died before it was really practiced. In my mind, Brigham Young was the polygamist.

The topic was avoided, regardless of whether it was in the seminary manual, and we did our level best to distance ourselves from the church's polygamist past as it did not go over well with our Bible belt friends, family, and neighbors. We passed along the faith promoting rumor that polygamy was all about taking care of women whose husbands were murdered by bloodthirsty Mormon haters who chased the saints from state to state until they fled across the plains. We also talked about how many women were sealed to Joseph Smith after his death, as if this alone accounted for the long list of wives local anti-Mormons claimed he had.

This was the narrative I was given at church, right or wrong, and it was how we coped with the local persecution for issues about which we had almost no historical data. The closest thing we had to information about our own beginnings other than manuals and church magazines were entries in Encyclopedia Britannica and the books my dad purchased from Deseret Book when we made the 7 hour trek to the nearest temple. That book store didn't open shop until the mid 70s and it's shelves were filled with faith promoting books written by church leaders and materials designed to help one succeed in teaching Primary or preparing a "Two-Minute Talk".

Even if you devoured the church magazines, it wasn't like there was an online database so you could research old issues. If you converted after one of Scott's referenced articles were released, or were a child then, the odds against encountering information about Joseph's polygamy or the stone and hat were astronomical.

At my house, where my father purchased every inspirational LDS book he could get his hands on, where we got all the church magazines, and where we attended faithfully (my dad was the bishop in my formative years, then high councilor, stake presidency counselor, etc throughout my childhood and youth - my mom went from Primary President to the Stake RS Presidency for most of those years), there was a dearth of information.

We did have a copy of Lucy Mack Smith's biography of Joseph which I skimmed as a 10 or 11 year old. And there was a brother in the ward who kept mimeographed papers that looked like newsletters from FARMS in a three ring binder but he was mostly obsessed with finding archaeological evidence for the Book of Mormon. Polygamy never came up in any conversation I had with him or overheard.

I would expect there was a lot more information to be had out West, given the reality of polygamist off shoots, and the ever present reality of church members with polygamist progenitors. Perhaps some of those claiming to have always known, really did always know, the history of polygamy being an unavoidable undercurrent of their culture and community.

In my LDS experience, far from "Zion", it simply was not so.
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We Ex-Mo's Were Assuredly "Lazy" When We Were Mo's
Friday, Jul 20, 2012, at 12:32 PM
Original Author(s): Sock Puppet
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Here beastie explains how it was her 'fault' not to have known more about Mormonism earlier, rather than it being due to LDS Inc's whitewashing of its history:

http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpB...
I converted to the church at the age of 19 in 1976. I was attending a small, private Methodist college in the southeast, and its library only had two books on Mormonism - both EV anti-mormon screeds that were easy to dismiss. I did my best to find out more information about the LDS church, but just didn't have access to anything helpful. So I believed what the missionaries told me about polygamy, which correlates to what you were told - it was to take care of widows and orphans. (I now wonder why it didn't occur to me that church members could take care of widows and orphans without marrying the widows as plural wives.) I don't remember ever hearing that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy himself, much less some of the more controversial details. I remember being told repeatedly that Emma was adamantly opposed to the practice.
Funny, when I was a two-year, full-time missionary in the late 70's, early 80's, and while we had two versions of the discussions, there was no mention of polygamy--and annotated instructions were to get the investigator back on track of just the topics presented in the discussions if the investigator brought up another topic. My companions were good at it, and headed off any conversation about polygamy as something that was socially needed in Utah in the 19th Century to build up a society there, but has long since been abandoned. While it did pipe down the questions, there frequently was a puzzled look yet remaining on the face of the investigator.
Did I draw the conclusion myself that Joseph Smith refrained from the practice for Emma's sake, or was I told that? I have no idea, but it was a firmly implanted idea in my head.
The way I heard about it when yet a TBM, in Sunday School and Priesthood Meeting and only then when raised as an off-manual topic, was that (a) JSJr received the revelation that the Saints were to engage in polygamy, (b) he told his wife, Emma, who vociferously objected (I use the commas as a parenthetical there because even with what I know today, I yet consider Emma to be the only wife of JSJr), (c) JSJr refrained from engaging in polygamy out of respect for Emma's wishes, (d) Emma was 'bad' for not accepting JSJr engaging in polygamy as god had commanded him, and (e) BY married all those widows in Utah to care for them and their fatherless children. #(c) was repeated not only in my home ward in a neighboring state, but also at a BYU ward in which the bishop, a BYU religion professor, was in attendance during one such occasion and did not 'correct' this misnomer.

I also distinctly remember the lessons from the manuals on Church history described polygamy as something that BY set up after the migration to Utah.
This was true for my other family members that joined when I did, too. We didn't find out about Joseph Smith's polygamy until we read Mormon Enigma many years later.
I have a hard time believing that beastie has a comprehension problem or that she comes from stock that has a genetic problem with comprehension.
I told this story on MAD years ago, and was heavily criticized for being too lazy to engage in due diligence before joining the church.
Ahh, the quintessential experience on MAD by those that would dare to mention that their Church experience did not include, from before baptism, knowing all about JSJr's peccadilloes.
When I pointed out that I had no resources at all, I was told that I should have searched the microfiches of the library.
Boy, wouldn't it have been much easier in the Missionary Home/MTC to have only had to tell investigators that to appropriately investigate the Mormon Church would have been to direct them to the microfiche collections in libraries in Utah. Not having to memorize ver batim those lengthy discussions that made no mention of such would have been much easier, and then I would not have unwittingly been an instrument of deception to the investigators that listened to me.
I pointed out that I would not have known what to look FOR, having no idea what the controversies are, and they didn't care. It was still my fault. I was lazy.
beastie, the apologist condemns us ex-Mo's each for not having studied out in our own minds everything ever written about Mormonism, and then prayed about it to get those stupors so we could dismiss the lies and get those bosom burning moments for what was true.

I wonder if to this day, anyone has prayed about JSJr's promiscuity and had his or her bosom burn with confirmation.

Of course, every topic I have learned anything about in my life began with grasping the basics and then moving on. I suppose it was my fault my 4th grade grammar school teacher mentioned Thomas Jefferson but nothing about Sally Hemings. Of course, my teacher didn't know either, but those rascals that were involved in the process of what primary source information would not appear in my grade school history books, they were trying to instill a misconception in me just as certainly as LDS Inc was doing.

My point here though is prompted by beastie's parenthetical:
(I now wonder why it didn't occur to me that church members could take care of widows and orphans without marrying the widows as plural wives.)
Yeah, how come it did not occur to beastie? Or to me when I heard the care-for-widows-and-orphans excuse?

Seems like beastie at those points in time, and me too at those points in my own Mormon odyssey, were accepting that explanation without looking further on our own, doing the Book of Mormon thing discussed in Alma 32:27-43. Specifically, letting the "desire work" in us until we can "give place" to the gospel, not resisting it so that it would grow like a planted seed, so that it would swell within our breasts, we would realize that it is good, that our souls would be enlarged, our understandings enlightened--that we would find it 'delicious'. Through our repeating that the 'seed' is good, our faith would be strengthened, our minds expand with greater powers of discernment.

By accepting the facile explanation of caring for the widows and orphans, we nourishing our faith, as Alma exhorted us to do, with great care, diligence, patience and looking forward to it to 'bring forth fruit' (everlasting life), fearing that if we did not so nourish it by accepting such an explanation, our 'ground would be barren' and the seed not grow.

As BKP has admonished just over a year ago, 'let it alone'.

Yet at the Great and Spacious Echo Chamber that was once appropriately acronymed MAD, one that mentions that he relied on the 'milk before the meat' is ridiculed for not having instantly learned every unsavory nook and cranny of Mormon history while investigating Mormonism or for having accepted what Mormon leaders repeatedly and consistently shoveled to those of us BIC as we grew up (rather than having at, say, 7 and 1/2 years of age insisted our parents take us to Salt Lake City to the Church Library there so that we could have spent at least 6 months before turning 8 and being baptized, learning about all of JSJr's dirty laundry).

Why, as beastie asks, did it not occur to those of us that had this experience that caring for widows and orphans could have been done without the necessity of BY making those widows his 'wives'?

Could it be that it did not occur to us, and we thus did not dig deeper then, because we were trying to give that seed of desire the test that Alma said required us to hope for the seed to be good, to be true, and to nourish it, we had to avoid naysayers?
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Joseph's Clumsy Implementation Of Polygamy
Friday, Sep 7, 2012, at 10:10 AM
Original Author(s): Dcharle
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
As I have contemplated Josephs polygamous activates, the marriages that seem to cause myself, and many others the most problems are his polyandrous marriages. The current apologetic defense for his polyandry is that he received the “plural marriage” revelation but was unsure how to implement it. In his clumsy efforts to implement such a difficult doctrine he innocently married teenage girls, and women who were already married.

This maladroit defense is often used in conjunction with the “line-upon-line” defense. It goes something like this: over time, the church learned how the Lord wanted the practice of plural marriage implemented, because prophets are men, so the argument goes, we need to allow them space for error in their quest to understand the revelations they receive. The apologists will also state that revelation is murky, as Paul says, “we see through glasses darkly” hence God allows prophets to make errors as they work through these bursts of revelation. The receiving of more light and knowledge is a slow process that gradually builds upon itself, subsequently the Lord allowed Joseph to marry other men's wives because he did not fully understand the revelation, and had not received any new direction in the matter to correct his graceless implementation of the principle.

Here is my issue with this line of thinking. Many times Joseph would receive “on the spot” revelation on much smaller, insignificant matters such as the exact location of a stone alter in which Adam used in the garden of Eden, consider the following quotes:

LDS Apostle Wilford Woodruff, writing in his journal on March 30, 1873, commented:

"Again Presdet Young said Joseph the Prophet told me that the garden of Eden was in Jackson Co Missouri, and when Adam was driven out of the garden of Eden He went about 40 miles to the Place which we Named Adam Ondi Ahman, and there built an Altar of Stone and offered Sacrifize. That Altar remains to this day. I saw it as Adam left it as did many others, and through all the revolutions of the world that Altar had not been disturbed. Joseph also said that when the City of Enoch fled and was translated it was whare the gulf of Mexico now is. It left that gulf a body of water." (Waiting for World's End: The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, edited by Susan Staker, Signature Books, 1993, p. 305)

Bruce R. McConkie explained that Joseph Smith had identified an altar in Missouri as one built by Adam:

"At that great gathering Adam offered sacrifices on an altar built for the purpose. A remnant of that very altar remained on the spot down through the ages. On May 19, 1838, Joseph Smith and a number of his associates stood on the remainder of the pile of stones at a place called Spring Hill, Daviess County, Missouri. There the Prophet taught them that Adam again would visit in the Valley of Adam-ondi-Ahman, holding a great council as a prelude to the great and dreadful day of the Lord." (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, Mediation and Atonement pp. 69-70.)

Other example’s of Joseph’s on the spot prophetic riffing are:
  • Zelph the white Lamanite.
  • Kinderhook plates
  • Greek Psalter
  • Where men were to be sent on missions
  • Exact names of women who were to marry him
  • That the Gulf of Mexico was once the great city of Enoch
The Lord seemed to have no problem with "live prophetic streaming” to Joseph on these and many other seemingly trivial matters, so why the hesitation by the Lord to help Joseph course correct on such an important matter like polygamy? After all, it is just the “new and everlasting covenant”.
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Is It Rape If Done Under The Guise Of "An Angel With A Flaming Sword Told Me To"?
Wednesday, Nov 27, 2013, at 07:58 AM
Original Author(s): Invnaught
Topic: JOSEPH SMITH - POLYGAMY   -Link To MC Article-
Think about it for a moment. If Joseph claims he is going to be killed by a flaming sword wielding angel, what then is going to happen to the girl who allowed his demise but could have prevented the destruction of God's prophet with just a little feminine submission?

Of course, in hind sight, it makes no sense whatsoever that "marrying" or not marrying someone and having sex with them will keep them from the rewards of heaven. But to a gullible young country girl, this was probably a very, very powerful arguement. There were very few recorded examples of ladies refusing to rescue Joseph Smith the wrath of the flaming sword. And those who did reject his sexual advances found out how quickly Joseph Smith's cutesy flirtiness could turn into a sword of flaming wrath of his making, as he would become hell bent on teaching any woman who dared resist his sexual advances the consequences of her disloyalty. Underneath Joseph Smith's thin veneer of boyish charm was an angry, cruel brute capable of all manner of punishment against any who would defy his growing demands.

One way or the other, each of the unwilling objects of Joseph Smith's wayward desires became faced with threats against the eternal salvation of not just herself, but that of her family as well. This fits the definition of coercion.

Blogger Shari Alexander made some interesting points on the subject of Influence as compared to Coercion on her website; http://www.shari-alexander.com/influe...

Influence:

The power to change or affect someone or something; the power to cause changes without directly forcing them to happen; a person or thing that affects someone or something in an important way

I think the important point here is, “without directly forcing them to happen.” Other definitions of influence refer to influence as being undetectable by the other person, and/or that influence reveals little to no effort by the influential person. I, personally, believe that influence and persuasion are fairly interchangeable.

Persuasion:

the act of causing people to do or believe something;the act or activity of persuading people

Now, let’s talk about the nasty cousins of influence: manipulation and coercion. Usually, when people have a negative reaction to the word influence, they are actually conjuring images and ideas about these words:

Manipulation:

Exerting shrewd or devious influence especially for one’s own advantage; “his manipulation of his friends was scandalous”

Coerce:

To make (someone) do something by using force or threats; to get (something) by using force or threats

Coercion is probably the ugliest of the lot. It’s pretty much a do-whatever-it-takes approach. Brainwashing and torture fall under the heading of coercion. Manipulation is unfortunately and incorrectly equated with influence. I guess it’s understandable since there really is only one small difference between the two.

Intention determines if you are being manipulative or influential.
 
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