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Orrin Hatch On "Anti-mormonism," His Efforts To Protect Paul H. Dunn From Media Investigation And Other Little Tidbits
Friday, Jul 22, 2005, at 03:49 AM
Original Author(s): Steve Benson
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
Comments on Mormon Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) are made on this site from time to time.

I thought it appropriate, therefore, to offer some observations from my own experiences with him which I have had over the years.

My Personal History with Hatch

I have known Orrin Hatch for over a quarter of a century, going back to the late 1970s.

During that time, Hatch and I have had several conversations, both in person and by phone.

I first became acquainted with the Utah Senator when I worked on Capitol Hill for a Senate committee. Hatch's office and the one in which I was employed were in the Russell Senate Office building, right off the Hill, where I would visit with him on a fairly regular basis.

At Hatch's request, I drew his caricature, along with those of members of his family, and was invited to his home for dinner in Vienna, Virginia.

Hatch , in personal letters to me, expressed friendship and concern, as well as noting that he was praying in my behalf.

He also mailed to me a copy of a CD collection of religious hymns he had personally composed and then had set to piano music.

Hatch's Quest for the American Presidency and His Views on Homosexuals

When Hatch was running for the Republican nomination for the presidency a few years back, I received a long distance call from him one afternoon as I was cleaning out the garage at our Arizona home.

Hatch was on the stump at the time, in the Midwest, and told me that he could use a cartoon from me supporting him in his run for the nomination. I politely sidestepped his request.

Later, when he came through Phoenix for a campaign debate and dropped by my newspaper for a visit, I provided him a copy of a cartoon I had previously done on him, which had criticized Hatch for anti-gay comments he had made in which, among other things, he had expressed public gratitude that he was not a Democrat and in which he noted that the Democratic Party was the party of the homosexuals. Hatch, in attacking gay supporters, also noted that Democrats tended to be more educated and financially well-off than Republicans.

When I handed him ta copy of my cartoon that took him to task for such antics, Hatch assured me that he had been misquoted. and misunderstood.

Hatch's Use of Ezra Taft Benson as a Springboard into National Public Office

Hatch has often repeated to me over the years that what especially encouraged him to enter national politics was the strong support he received from my grandfather, Ezra Taft Benson.

My grandfather, in fact, acknowledged to me in personal correspondence that he regarded Hatch as a good man whose voice was sorely needed in the Senate and as a person who he hoped t would be in Congress for a long time to come.

Hatch and His Personal Use of Profanity

A few years ago, Hatch spoke by invitation to a national convention for the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists, held in Orlando, Florida. I attended the event, where I had provided assistance for Hatch's appearance before our group.

Hatch was quite a hit with my fellow cartoonists.

After he had finished his formal dinner speech to us in Orlando, Hatch spent a couple of hours lounging with a group of cartoonists in the hotel lobby, regaling them with stories about him and his friends on the Hill.

He pleasantly surprised many of those present by freely using the "sh**" word, as he entertained them with tales about rubbing shoulders with government luminaries, including the likes of Teddy Kennedy, whom Hatch regards as a close personal friend.

(This was nothing new to me. I had frequently heard Hatch employ profanity when he would invite me to visit with him in his personal Senate office quarters).

After the gabfest was over, I accompanied Hatch to his hotel room, where we sat and talked, one-on-one, for another hour or so.

Hatch's Further Designs on Winning the White House and His Thoughts on "Anti-Mormon" Literature

Hatch told me some interesting things about himself, about the Mormon Church and about his plans for higher office.

He confidently informed me that he was familiar with "anti-Mormon" arguments and that there was no criticism of the LDS Church that he either had not heard before or could not answer.

He boasted that he had, in fact, personally read over 10,000 pages of "anti-Mormon" material. He said that his thorough knowledge of the "anti-Mormon" position had favorably impressed a University of Utah professor in whose class he was enrolled as a college student.

I questioned Hatch's working knowledge of evidence against the Mormon Church, informing him that there was developing, mounting and credible data, much of it only recently made available, persuasively indicating that the Book of Mormon was a piece of 19th-century fiction.

I mentioned, in particular, Vernal Holley's work on the Spaulding Manuscript (which in my own studies had provided pivotal proof that Joseph Smith's production was non-historical), as well as geographical place-name similarities between supposed Book of Mormon lands and events and the topography of Great Lakes region of the United States.

Hatch did not demonstrate any knowledge of these specific counter-evidences but dismissed my arguments nonetheless, saying that his own research of Mormonism while in college had made him well aware of the critics' positions.

That aside, Hatch then confidently assured me that he would find much grassroots support among the American people in a run for the presidency.

Doing the math, he told me that all he needed was $1 contributions each from a million citizens and he would have $1 million for his campaign war chest.

I responded by telling Hatch that, in my opinion, he would never be elected President of the United States and gave him three reasons why:
  • His opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment
  • His brutal mistreatment of Anita Hill during the Senate confirmation hearings of Supreme Court nominee, Clarence Thomas. (Hatch responded that he had not inappropriately questioned Hill, while acknowleding to me that he knew Thomas had had "problems with pornogrpahy at Yale" but that this was an issue from "a long time ago").
  • His membership in the Mormon Church
As is typical of the Hatch bravado, he blew off my observations.

Hatch, Paul H. Dunn and Efforts at Manipulating the News

In the spring of 1990, when I was working at the Morning News Tribune in Tacoma WA, Hatch called me at my office and asked me to get my colleagues at the Arizona Repubic in Phoenix to stop their investigation of Paul H. Dunn.

Hatch told me that Dunn was a personal friend of his and that he was concerned about what the reporters' inquiries were doing to Dunn.

The Republic investigation that bothered Hatch was centering around Dunn's credibility problems arising from Dunn's alleged exploits as a combat soldier in World War II--stories which were eventually exposed as outright fabrications.

I asked Hatch if he was familiar with the charges against Dunn. He replied that he was not. I told Hatch that I could not, in good conscience, interfere with investigative reporters who were just doing their job.

Hatch thanked me and said he might get back to me.

He never did.
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Orrin Hatch's Carefully- And Tepidly-Worded Personal Testimony Of The First Vision
Thursday, Aug 11, 2005, at 07:09 AM
Original Author(s): Steve Benson
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
On CBS's 60 Minutes program, broadcast on 7 April 1996, Mike Wallace explained to a national audience Mormonism's tall tale of the First Vision--and then asked Utah Mormon Senator Orrin Hatch what he thought of the whole thing:

Mike Wallace: "[The Mormon] church says God and Jesus spoke with [its] founder Joseph Smith back in eighteen hundred and twenty and told him to start this church. . . .

"He was 14 years old . . . a backwoods farm boy . . . in New York State. . . .

"Fourteen years old, and God and Jesus come to see him? . . .

[Voiceover with footage of Hatch on U.S. Senate floor]

". . . [T]he senior US Senator from Utah, Orrin Hatch, a Mormon, believes it . . .

[Wallace interview with Hatch]

Orrin Hatch: "We believe that we know that this happened."
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Say what??? Rewind the tape.

Orrin Hatch: "We believe that we know that this happened."

"WE BELIEVE THAT WE KNOW THAT THIS HAPPENED?"

Lordy, it doesn't get much stronger than that. :)

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Source: http://www.lds-mormon.com/60min.shtml
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Senator Hypocrite Hatch Is The Top Congressional Recipient Of Donations From Alcohol, And Close For Tobacco And Gambling
Monday, Oct 3, 2005, at 07:49 AM
Original Author(s): Anonymous
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
Wine, beer, liquor cash flows into Hatch coffers

Hatch has shown his true colors.

H Y P O C R I T E

I guess he did not heed the counsel of his best bud Gordo and "Stand for SOMEthing"

He will take money from anyone.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, a former LDS bishop who does not drink, has taken more money from wine, beer and liquor groups this year than any other congressional candidate.

The alcohol interests gave him $25,000. Rep. Mike Thompson, R-Calif., whose district is in California's wine country, is second with $21,568. In third place with $20,000 is Rep. Anne M. Northrup, R-Ky., who represents an area famous for bourbon.

That is not all. Hatch, R-Utah, who follows his LDS faith's admonition against smoking, took the fifth-most money this year among all congressional candidates from tobacco interests. The $13,000 he took was more than was donated to such tobacco-state politicians as Sen. Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C. ($11,000), and Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C. ($9,500).

Again, Hatch, who says he also opposes gambling, as does his LDS faith, took the 15th most among Senate candidates this year from gambling interests. The $8,000 he accepted was more, for example, than has been accepted by Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., who also is a Latter-day Saint and who represents a state famous for casinos. Reid took $5,000 from such groups.

Hatch even had a fund-raiser at the MGM Mirage in Las Vegas in 2003, aided by a $1,530 "in kind" donation by that casino/hotel for what Hatch's campaign said was catering and staff time. His campaign said the fund-raiser was not held for gaming interests but for health-care groups that were meeting in Las Vegas.

Rankings for donations by industry come from the Center for Responsive Politics based on data collected through Aug. 15. The Deseret Morning News also searched Federal Election Commission reports filed monthly by political action committees of industry groups to verify data and update it with some more recent donations.
A Hatch spokesman said it is not HYPOCRISY to take money from groups whose products the senator opposes. The spokesman said the groups may donate because they like Hatch's stands on many issues besides what he thinks personally of their products. Others question what such special interests may receive for their money.

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Orrin Hatch Has Read "85,000 Pages Of Ex-Mormon 'History'"
Monday, Mar 27, 2006, at 01:28 AM
Original Author(s): Dcl
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
Today I attended a meeting for a local LDS law society where Senator Orrin Hatch spoke. The topic was supposed to be "Ethics and the Judicial Confirmation Process," but he ended up talking an awful lot about TSCC, how "prejudice" against TSCC stymied his presidential bid in 2000, etc.

Anyway, one funny thing he said was that as an undergraduate student at BYU, he determined that he would read "1,000 pages of mormon history." He said his history professor suggested he balance it out with 1,000 pages of "ex-mormon history." (not sure what he meant by that- the history of ex-mormons or history about the church BY ex-mormons, but whatever...)

The good Senator then said that he found "ex-mormon history soooo interesting that he not only read 1,000 pages but 85,000 (!!!) pages of it." He said that he was not phased in his belief in the church by any of that "garbage."

Come on?!? 85,000 pages?!?!?!? Has there even been that much written of "ex-mormon history?"

The take-away point seemed to be that people who disbelieve TSCC are just "stupid" to be snookered by all that "ex-mormon" history out there, when someone as powerful as the senator failed to be convinced by it.

Personally, unattached from politics here and focusing narrowly on his comments re TSCC, I think Mr. Hatch is full of shit, both on claiming to have read the 85,000 pages and about his inferences.

I just thought this was eye-rollingly interesting.
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Out-Dunning Paul H. Dunn: Orrin Hatch's Claim To Have Read Thousands Of Pages Of "Anti-Mormon" Literature
Tuesday, Mar 28, 2006, at 07:29 AM
Original Author(s): Steve Benson
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
It appears that Orrin Hatch--Morgbot Superhero and Crime Fighter Against the "Anti-Mormon" Evil Empire--is now trying to out-Paul H. Dunn even Paul H. Dunn.

And that really says something, given that Hatch has been such a mega-fan of Dunn that he even attempted (unsuccessfully) to get media investigations into Dunn's World War II whoppers squelched.

"DCL" reported earlier:

Today I attended a meeting for a local LDS law society where Senator Orrin Hatch spoke. The topic was supposed to be "Ethics and the Judicial Confirmation Process," but he ended up talking an awful lot about TSCC, how "prejudice" against TSCC stymied his presidential bid in 2000, etc.

Anyway, one funny thing he said was that as an undergraduate student at BYU, he determined that he would read "1,000 pages of Mormon history." He said his history professor suggested he balance it out with 1,000 pages of "ex-Mormon history" (not sure what he meant by that- the history of ex-Mormons or history about the church BY ex-mormons, but whatever. . .)

The good Senator then said that he found "ex-Mormon history soooo interesting that he not only read 1,000 pages but 85,000 (!!!) pages of it." He said that he was not phased in his belief in the church by any of that "garbage."

Come on?!? 85,000 pages?!?!?!? Has there even been that much written of "ex-mormon history?"

The take-away point seemed to be that people who disbelieve TSCC are just "stupid" to be snookered by all that "ex-Mormon" history out there, when someone as powerful as the senator failed to be convinced by it.

Personally, unattached from politics here and focusing narrowly on his comments re TSCC, I think Mr. Hatch is full of s**t, both on claiming to have read the 85,000 pages and about his inferences.

I just thought this was eye-rolling interesting.


("Orrin Hatch has read '85,000 pages of ex-Mormon "history'[**language]," posted by "DCL" on Recovery from Mormonism board, 27 March 2006)

*****

In July of last year, based on my own experiences with Hatch, I posted some thoughts on the man, entitled "Orrin Hatch on 'Anti-Mormonism,' His Efforts to Protect Paul H. Dunn from Media Investigation and Other Little Tidbits."

Below is the original post (with the subsequent addition of other information in brackets).

Scroll down through the following and you will discover (highlighted in bold italic) that Hatch's claims concerning his alleged voluminous reading of "ex-Mormon" material has, well, blossomed like a rose, to the tune of several thousand additional petals.

To give Hatch the benefit of the doubt, however, perhaps he has since read an extra 75,000 pages since he first told me about this amazing feat. :)

And, for the record, when Hatch made his claims to me, he referred to what he had supposedly read not as "ex-Mormon" history but as "anti-Mormon" history:

My Personal History with Hatch

I have known Orrin Hatch for over a quarter of a century, going back to the late 1970s.

During that time, Hatch and I have had several conversations, both in person and by phone.

I first became acquainted with the Utah Senator when I worked on Capitol Hill for a Senate committee. Hatch's office and the one in which I was employed were in the Russell Senate Office building, right off the Hill, where I would visit with him on a fairly regular basis.

At Hatch's request, I drew his caricature, along with those of members of his family, and was invited to his home for dinner in Vienna, Virginia.

Hatch , in personal letters to me, expressed friendship and concern, as well as noting that he was praying in my behalf.
He also mailed to me a copy of a CD collection of religious hymns he had personally composed and then had set to piano music.
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Hatch's Quest for the American Presidency and His Views on Homosexuals

When Hatch was running for the Republican nomination for the presidency a few years back, I received a long distance call from him one afternoon as I was cleaning out the garage at our Arizona home.

Hatch was on the stump at the time, in the Midwest, and told me that he could use a cartoon from me supporting him in his run for the nomination. I politely sidestepped his request.

Later, when he came through Phoenix for a campaign debate and dropped by my newspaper for a visit, I provided him a copy of a cartoon I had previously done on him, which had criticized Hatch for anti-gay comments he had made in which, among other things, he had expressed public gratitude that he was not a Democrat and in which he noted that the Democratic Party was the party of the homosexuals. Hatch, in attacking gay supporters, also noted that Democrats tended to be more educated and financially well-off than Republicans.

When I handed him ta copy of my cartoon that took him to task for such antics, Hatch assured me that he had been misquoted. and misunderstood.
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Hatch's Use of Ezra Taft Benson as a Springboard into National Public Office

Hatch has often repeated to me over the years that what especially encouraged him to enter national politics was the strong support he received from my grandfather, Ezra Taft Benson.

My grandfather, in fact, acknowledged to me in personal correspondence that he regarded Hatch as a good man whose voice was sorely needed in the Senate and as a person who he hoped t would be in Congress for a long time to come.

[Indeed, in a personal letter to me from my grandfather, dated 21-22 April 1981, Ezra Taft Benson said the following about Hatch:

“I have become acquainted with many senators in my life. I know of no one who I feel made a better record in his first term than Orrin Hatch. I . . . hope that I may be helpful to one whom I feel is a great asset to the United States Senate and should be continued in office for many years to come . . . "; As an aside, Hatch told me some years later--after he had addressed our national cartoonist convention's opening event on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., and we were walking out to where he was to catch his limousine curbside ride to another function--that his political opponents would "sell their mothers for a vote"] .
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Hatch and His Personal Use of Profanity

A few years ago, Hatch spoke by invitation to a national convention for the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists, held in Orlando, Florida. I attended the event, where I had provided assistance for Hatch's appearance before our group.

Hatch was quite a hit with my fellow cartoonists.

After he had finished his formal dinner speech to us in Orlando, Hatch spent a couple of hours lounging with a group of cartoonists in the hotel lobby, regaling them with stories about him and his friends on the Hill.

He pleasantly surprised many of those present by freely using the "sh**" word, as he entertained them with tales about rubbing shoulders with government luminaries, including the likes of Teddy Kennedy, whom Hatch regards as a close personal friend.

(This was nothing new to me. I had frequently heard Hatch employ profanity when he would invite me to visit with him in his personal Senate office quarters).

After the gabfest was over, I accompanied Hatch to his hotel room, where we sat and talked, one-on-one, for another hour or so.
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Hatch's Further Designs on Winning the White House and His Thoughts on "Anti-Mormon" Literature

Hatch told me some interesting things about himself, about the Mormon Church and about his plans for higher office.

He confidently informed me that he was familiar with "anti-Mormon" arguments and that there was no criticism of the LDS Church that he either had not heard before or could not answer.

He boasted that he had, in fact, personally read over 10,000 pages of "anti-Mormon" material. He said that his thorough knowledge of the "anti-Mormon" position had favorably impressed a University of Utah professor, to whom he relayed this information.

I questioned Hatch's working knowledge of evidence against the Mormon Church, informing him that there was developing, mounting and credible data, much of it only recently made available, persuasively indicating that the Book of Mormon was a piece of 19th-century fiction.

I mentioned, in particular, Vernal Holley's work on the Spaulding Manuscript (which in my own studies had provided pivotal proof that Joseph Smith's production was non-historical), as well as geographical place-name similarities between supposed Book of Mormon lands and events and the topography of Great Lakes region of the United States.

Hatch did not demonstrate any knowledge of these specific counter-evidences but dismissed my arguments nonetheless, saying that his own research of Mormonism while in college had made him well aware of the critics' positions.


That aside, Hatch then confidently assured me that he would find much grassroots support among the American people in a run for the presidency.

Doing the math, he told me that all he needed was $1 contributions each from a million citizens and he would have $1 million for his campaign war chest.

I responded by telling Hatch that, in my opinion, he would never be elected President of the United States and gave him three reasons why:

* His opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment.

* His brutal mistreatment of Anita Hill during the Senate
confirmation hearings of Supreme Court nominee, Clarence Thomas. (Hatch responded that he had not inappropriately questioned Hill, while acknowleding to me that he knew Thomas had had "problems with pornogrpahy at Yale" but that this was an issue from "a long time ago").

* His membership in the Mormon Church. (As is typical of the Hatch bravado, he blew off my observations).
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Hatch, Paul H. Dunn and Efforts at Manipulating the News

In the spring of 1990, when I was working at the Morning News Tribune in Tacoma WA, Hatch called me at my office and asked me to get my colleagues at the Arizona Repubic in Phoenix to stop their investigation of Paul H. Dunn.

Hatch told me that Dunn was a personal friend of his and that he was concerned about what the reporters' inquiries were doing to Dunn.

The Republic investigation that bothered Hatch was centering around Dunn's credibility problems arising from Dunn's alleged exploits as a combat soldier in World War II--stories which were eventually exposed as outright fabrications.

I asked Hatch if he was familiar with the charges against Dunn. He replied that he was not. I told Hatch that I could not, in good conscience, interfere with investigative reporters who were just doing their job.

Hatch thanked me and said he might get back to me.

He never did.
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Orrin Hatch's Unholy Habit Of Covering Up For His Friends' Sex Scandal-Related Behavior
Monday, Oct 16, 2006, at 07:30 AM
Original Author(s): Sourcerer
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
Mormon Utah Senator Orrin Hatch, in defending House Speaker Dennis Hastert's conduct in dealing with the brewing page scandal, said that Hastert "did not want to appear to be anti-gay."

Below are excerpts from the Salt Lake Tribune article (initially referrred to by PtLoma) in which Hatch offers a spirited defense of Hastert's actions:

"Hatch says House feared anti-gay label Hastert's busy schedule also may have delayed action on Foley, he adds

By Matt Canham

The Salt Lake Tribune

"U.S. House leaders may have delayed taking action against former Florida Republican Rep. Mark Foley because they were afraid of appearing anti-gay, according to Sen. Orrin Hatch.

"Utah's senator . . . defended House Speaker Dennis Hastert, who has drawn repeated criticism for not acting on concerns brought to his office earlier.

"Hatch's defense, presented to the Tribune editorial board earlier this week, centered on how busy Hastert is as the Republican leader in the House.

"But he also said: 'I don't know anybody today in the Congress who wants to act or be homophobic, so that may be part of the problem here.'"

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4479584

*****

Should one be surprised?

Orrin Hatch apparently has a history of covering up sexually-related inappropriate conduct of those whom he politically supports.

In a post sometime ago on RfM, Steve Benson noted that he had personally and privately met with Orrin Hatch who, during the course of their conversation, admitted that amid the contentious confirmation hearings for then-U.S. Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas, he (Hatch) had known that Thomas had suffered from "a problem with pornography" while Thomas was a student at Yale.

(Thomas' alleged sexual misbehavior had become a point of significant controversy, based on under-oath claims by Anita Hill that Thomas had sexually harassed her when she worked as a staffer for Thomas at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Hill, among other allegations, claimed that Thomas was obsessed with the size of women's breasts and frequently made offensive comments about them to her).

According to Benson, Hatch admitted that he and his fellow supporters of Thomas on the Senate Judiciary Committee did not make a public issue of Thomas' involvement with college-era pornography because Thomas' so-called "problem" had occurred "a long time ago."

Seems like both Hastert and Hatch are quite adept at the art of taking delayed action.
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Orrin Hatch Tells Park City Utah Mayor Dana Williams To Stop Wearing Earrings
Thursday, Jan 25, 2007, at 06:33 AM
Original Author(s): Amelia Nielson-Stowell
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
From the Mormon owned Deseret News:
PARK CITY – After the Los Angeles Times ran a profile on Park City Mayor Dana Williams during the 2006 Sundance Film Festival, Williams was thrilled to get a letter from Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch.

"Thank you for showing a different side of Utah," it read. "P.S. Lose the earrings."

Williams has never taken off those two gold hoops.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249...
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Does Anyone Here Seriously Believe That Orrin Hatch Puts His Religion On The "Back Seat"?
Friday, Apr 27, 2007, at 08:25 AM
Original Author(s): Steve Benson
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
Apparently, someone 'round these parts does:

"Orrin Hatch is a senator whose religion takes a back seat -- unlike Mitt Romney, with whom his religion is at the forefront of all other issues."

But, really, folks, how 'bout a terra firma check:

Ever heard Hatch run in Utah for his 6-year re-up for re-election where, speaking before Mormon political gatherings, he has roundly attacked homosexuals and Democrats in ways that would make conservative, ETB-brand Mormons proud?

Ever heard, indeed, Hatch gesture derisively toward the U.S. Capitol complex and mutter that Democrats would, without hesitation, sell their own mothers for a vote? (I have, walking along the streets of Washington, D.C., with him).

Ever seen Hatch's frontal assault on the Equal Rights Amendment (including writing a book attacking it from all directions)--and, not coincidentally, doing so at the time that his Mormon Church was vehemently opposing its passage and using all kinds of political interference trickery to do so?

Ever seen Hatch glad-handing the ropeline at General Conference where, in the Tabernacle, he regularly receives special seating privileges, front and center? (I have, since the Benson family got its own reserved pads in the same section).

Ever heard Hatch repeatedly credit his seat in the Senate to him having followed the advice of a Mormon "prophet" to seek the Senate in the first place? (I have, many times, from him personally).

Ever heard Hatch personally boast to you of having read some 10,000 pages of anti-Mormon literature and being able to refute every point in it, to the amazement of his college professors? (I have).

Ever witnessed Hatch testify to Mike Wallace on CBS's "60 Minutes" as to his belief in the apostasy and restoration of God's church through Joseph Smith? (I have--and was, in fact, interviewed by Wallace on the same program).

Ever heard Hatch in a southern Utah public town meeting praise Utah polygamists as "very fine people"?

Ever had Hatch phone you and ask you to help him get the media off the back of lying General Authority Paul H. Dunn, or have him call you requesting your help him by doing an editorial cartoon advocating his election to the presidency, or have him send you a CD of his own gospel-praising songs with a note attached saying he was praying for you? (Believe me, I have).

Ever heard ETB say that Hatch was doing quite a good job as Utah's Senator? (I have, from Grandpa's own mouth).

ETB did not fail in setting his sights on seeing Hatch elected to the Senate and doing the job ETB expected him to do.

And Hatch has not failed in delivering the goods he owes, in return, to the "good" Mormons who follow the "prophet" ETB's advice on shunning the Democratic ballot and voting GOP/GOD.
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Glad You Have To Pay A Full Tithe In Spite Of Bankruptcy? Oh, Just Thank Orrin Hatch And Barrack Obama
Tuesday, May 8, 2007, at 10:35 AM
Original Author(s): Wanda, A.k.a. Eve
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
CONGRESS PASSES HATCH-OBAMA TITHING BILL

Clarifies Treatment of Charitable Contributions in Bankruptcy Law

Washington The House of Representatives today gave final approval to a bill sponsored by Sens. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to protect an individual’s right to continue reasonable charitable contributions, including religious tithing, during the course of consumer bankruptcy. The measure passed the United States Senate in late September and will now be presented to the President for his signature.

“Congress has a long history of protecting our religious freedom to tithe,” Hatch said. “That was our intent when we enacted bankruptcy reform last year, and this bill clarifies the law so that those who tithe can continue to live their faith while in bankruptcy.”

"For millions of Americans, charitable giving and tithing is an essential part of their lives," Obama said. "And in a country where 37 million citizens live in poverty, we should be encouraging charitable giving, not limiting it."

The Hatch-Obama bill, S. 4044, responds to a recent court ruling that above-medium income debtors in Chapter 13 bankruptcy cannot deduct charitable contributions, including religious contributions, from their payment plans. The ruling was based on an interpretation of the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 (BAPCPA). Hatch and Obama authored S. 4044 to ensure that all individuals in bankruptcy, no matter their income, would be able to continue giving to charity and their church.

http://hatch.senate.gov/index.cfm?Fus...
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Orrin Hatch Wants Insurance Companies To Pay For Prayer
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009, at 10:05 AM
Original Author(s): Mormonquestioner
Topic: ORRIN HATCH   -Link To MC Article-
This just blew my mind, and I had to share. I was listening to a podcast this morning (Skeptic's Guide) and they mentioned that Orrin Hatch just inserted new language in the health care bill currently wending its way through Congress. And before you accuse me of just hating Republicans (since I kind of do...Wink just kidding... kind of) John Kerry and Tedd Kennedy were both for this as well.

What does it do?

Well it makes religious health care covered under the health care plans. It seems the main reason they are pushing it is because of the Christian Scientist movement, and they don't believe in traditional medicine, since they believe all illness should be treated by prayer. When they do this, they charge a nominal fee for the prayers, and they want it treated the same as any other medical cost, and to be reimbursable.

WHAT!!!

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madra...

That is insane. The language in the bill is so vague that any religious group would be able to claim that their "medical" services are faith based, and thus should be covered under the same language as the Christian Scientists.

There are so many problems with this. The fact that Government or health care plans shouldn't be paying for faith based treatments. The fact that it basically strips health care even further from concentrating on things that ACTUALLY HELP! The fact that it opens up my taxes even further to be paying for crap that doesn't work and has never been shown to work in any kind of rigorous testing.

Anyway, what really got me wondering was why Orrin Hatch was involved? Kennedy and Kerry are just being politicians and supporting the home voters, since Christian Science is based in Boston. But what is Hatch doing? Is the church going to start charging for priesthood blessings? I know that the city creek project is up in cost again, and tithing revenues are likely down with the recession, maybe they are looking for a new revenue stream and figure they can bill medical insurers. Argh, what a joke.
 
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