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TITHING - SECTION 3
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Mormons are required by Commandment of God to pay 10% of all their GROSS income to the LDS church. This includes all income - including: employment, unemployment insurance, student loans, pell grant checks, Social Security income, Medicare, foodstamps, trust funds and any other form of income, even including finding money on the ground. If they miss paying tithing for any reason while alive - they will jeopardize their eternal salvation.
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I was a full-fledged member, obeying all the "commandments", etc. I hadn't been to the temple for years; my daughter was planning on a mission and wanted me to go to the temple with her. She really wanted me there with her! At the time I had lost my job, unemployment benefits had run out--I was living on food stamps and not much else. I was one step away from that recommend, but I wasn't paying tithing. My bishop said he was sorry, but couldn't issue the recommend-- he said he talked to the SP about it, and the SP said NO. I was really disappointed, but I put it "on the shelf" in the back of my mind, with everything else. But then that shelf finally came crashing down under the weight of all the accumulated doubts.
It's actually extortion, for you're told you can't be together with your family unless you go to the temple. And Mormons can't go to the temple unless they pay a FULL tithe. And if you work for the church, they know exactly how much you make. You will lose your job if you don't pay up!
|  | Yes, Tithing Is The Most Important Thing To The Church.
Thursday, Jul 26, 2012, at 07:36 AM
Original Author(s): Finally Free!
Topic: TITHING - SECTION 3 -Guid- | ↑ | Yes, tithing is the most important thing to the church. The measure for this is acceptance into the temple, since according to the church, gaining entrance is gets you the keys to heaven.
You can break pretty much any other rule and be forgiven, right there in the temple interview (or as some have pointed out, they will give you a temple recommend to help "strengthen" you with whatever you're "struggling" with)
The most important thing is NOT obedience. What do they care if you are obedient? Sure that that may be the lever they use to get you to pay tithing, but there are plenty of people, even on this board (which isn't very obedient), who pay tithing for family or other reasons and can keep their recommend. You can be completely disobedient and still get a temple recommend if you are paying your tithing.
I personally know of people who have:
- Cheated on their spouses (they were told not to tell their spouse, they did because they felt it would be dishonest to do otherwise)
- Sold drugs and admitted it in the interview and were temple married a few weeks later.
- Physically abused their spouse and still hold a temple recommend, even though there has been witnesses against them.
Some Bishops may be more strict than others in letting things pass, but most can and will let anything slide if you appear earnest enough in an interview that you are trying. They may give waiting periods or other probation, but ultimately if you want a temple recommend, the only thing you have to do is pay your tithing.
| Anybody else completely tired of hearing about Romney's "charitable" giving. MORMON TITHING IS NOT CHARITABLE GIVING. REPEAT, MORMON TITHING IS NOT CHARITABLE GIVING. IT'S A BILL!!!!!! Mitt, like all other Mormons has to pay 10% of his gross income or else the following are consequences:
- He can't attend his own kids weddings performed in mormon temples.
- He can't attend any of his relatives weddings performed in mormon temples.
- He can't save his own dead relatives by being baptized for them.
- He can't learn of the secret handshakes and words needed to walk past angels when he dies.
- His dead relatives can't learn of the secret handshakes and words either.
- He can't hold any positions in the Church of any significance, especially if he likes to lead over others.
- In most cases he can't bless his own baby or baptize his own children or grandchildren.
- He has to face the humiliation of not doing any of the above things and everyone in his family knowing about it.
Because of the coercive nature of mormon "tithing", it's actually a sign of weakness in Mitt Romney for him to pay the exhorbitant coercive fee to a Church that gives only 1.6% of it's income to "humanitarian" aid. It's far more impressive for someone to give charity to organizations that actually aren't in the business of only building up themselves. Mitt should know better, because with 3 clicks of his mouse he should clearly be able to see what a crock it all is. Pass the word!
| | | I Was Active But Not A Full Tithe-Payer And Was Denied Help
Thursday, Oct 18, 2012, at 08:52 AM
Original Author(s): Normarae
Topic: TITHING - SECTION 3 -Guid- | ↑ | I was active but not a full tithe-payer and was denied help.
However, it was one of the best things that ever happened to me.
I had separated from hubby and didn't have a maintenance agreement yet and he was trying to get me to drop it by giving me no money. I was looking for a better job and went and asked the Bishop for some help. He told me to pay a full tithe and the Lord would bless me and help me find a job. And just in case it took the Lord a little while longer to get around to me, if nothing had changed at the end of a month and I'd paid up, I could come back and he'd help me.
I was so torn. The Lard's annointed had told me to put God to the test (as had my dad, who wouldn't "help someone who wouldn't help themself.") I really wanted to, but I was a mother and I caved and couldn't give what little I had to feed my children to the church. I felt so awful when I spent that money. The next day I got a call for a job interview and a week later was offered a much better job with benefits. If I'd paid my tithing and that happened, as it would have, I'd have been sucked in for life. I would have known that it was my blessing for trusting in the Lord. If Bishop had helped me without my paying up, I would have thought it was part of the help from the church and that I truly owed God. Instead, it helped me realize that I got a job despite the good Lord. I got it because I worked for it and I was the most qualified. It was a real epiphany for me and one of the big cracks in the door.
I still thank God for the asshat bishops (and I had several through my life) who helped me see the reality of cult mind control.
| | | Bishop Uses Strong Language About Tithing Settlement
Monday, Nov 26, 2012, at 07:38 AM
Original Author(s): Intjsegry
Topic: TITHING - SECTION 3 -Guid- | ↑ | This was one of the main "last straws" for me.
I went to try and get a recommend. I wasn't a FULL tithe payer at the time, but I had desires to catch up and make good. Even though I had paid tithing for the previous 25 years of my life faithfully. (At this time I wasn't paying simply because we were ALWAYS out of town, and We'd wait to get home to pay it, sometimes MONTHS apart.)
I got an hour lecture about how if I wasn't a full tithe payer, he wouldn't sign my recommend, and then I couldn't get into Nauvoo (or wherever the "last stand" is,) That meant, he sternly asserted, "that when the Lord came, and I would be left out of the group and would not be recognized as worthy, and would be damned. "
All because in his exact words "your recommend was not signed by the proper authority, which would prove your worthiness."
I was shocked. I had gone in wanting to settle up, and came out feeling threatened, belittled, blackmailed, and evil.
For the first time I realized that I was "BUYING MY WAY INTO HEAVEN." and that heaven's way was paved with a signature, that could only be acquired by the whims of a bishop. Can you say ego trip?
I never paid tithing again.
| | | Behind On Your Bills? Can't Pay Your Rent? Family Starving? So What - Pay Your Tithing Anyway
Wednesday, Nov 28, 2012, at 09:20 AM
Original Author(s): Infymus
Topic: TITHING - SECTION 3 -Guid- | ↑ | From official Mormon website: http://www.lds.org/ensign/2012/12/sac...
"If paying tithing means that you can't pay for water or electricity, pay tithing. If paying tithing means that you can't pay your rent, pay tithing. Even if paying tithing means that you don't have enough money to feed your family, pay tithing."
This is the message in Mormonism. Money. Money above all other things. All blessings in Mormonism come from paying the Mormon Church.
There are hundreds of heart felt posts here on the Mormon Curtain where members were denied help - simply because they had failed to pay tithing. And yet the Mormon Church built a billion dollar shopping mall and their prophet snipped the red tape and exclaimed, "One Two Three! Let's go shopping!"
| | | March 2013 Ensign Mentions Tithing 61 Times
Thursday, Feb 28, 2013, at 08:23 AM
Original Author(s): Sherlock
Topic: TITHING - SECTION 3 -Guid- | ↑ | The march edition of the Mormon Church magazine "The Ensign" mentions tithing 61 times. If you include the words "tithe" and "tithes" you can get it even higher. There are an awful lot of articles on tithing. Christ is mentioned 24 times.
'The Blessings of Tithing' article is particularly horrible. It's a load of stories from members around the world who describe their struggle to pay tithing due to financial challenges (first two individuals are in Bolivia and El Salvador). They then decide to pay tithing and of course, attribute any blessing to this decision to pay.
It's pure manipulation that flies in the face of a recent GC talk where it was mentioned that we shouldn't expect tithing to necessarily bring about temporal blessings.
In one of the examples a lady describes just a feeling of peace as she decides to prioritise paying tithing before bills - we don't hear any outcome, so she could be living on the street and selling her body by now.
In anther story a lady describes how through paying tithing they were able to plant a vegetable garden and fruit trees and benefit from all of this produce. Wow! If it wasn't for tithing (reducing their ability to put food on the table) they would never have thought about such a clever idea?
This is all just so manipulative. Members are being taught to expect temporal blessings and that these blessings could be very simple things (essentially look for any small positive thing and associate it to tithing). They are also taught that even when no temporal blessings are obvious, the feelings of peace from doing so are the blessing (I.e feeling of peace = negation of TSCC induced guilt).
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